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Done. >> Okay. >> All right. This is the lake management meeting starting at 7:00 and meeting is being recorded and anyone else recording the meeting, please notify me. Don't see any guests.

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>> Yeah, I don't see what's his name on that tonight. >> No. Okay. Uh, take attendance. We have Norm Chver >> here. Mike Kums here. Uh, Dick Ranolds here. Paul Murphy >> here. Paul Yokum >> here. >> All right. Affirmed. Got it. We have a

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quorum. All right. No guests right now. Um and read and approve the minutes. We just have the minutes from the 14th because Ellen still has been under the weather. >> Okay.

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>> Get better, Ellen. >> Yeah. So, do we have any comments or anything on the on the minutes? Any changes? >> I don't have any changes. >> Anybody? >> Not me. Take a motion to accept. >> I'll make a motion to accept the minutes

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as written. >> My second C. Second is all M. All in favor? I >> opposed. Stain. Unanimous. Let me affirm. >> All right. Norm Chver. >> Hi.

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>> Mike Kums. >> Hi. >> Dick Browns. I >> um Paul Murphy. >> Paul. >> Hi. >> All right. Affirmed. Done. All right. So, we don't have the minutes from the 528. We'll have those at the next one plus the minutes tonight. >> Yeah.

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>> Um, and the concom update Norm. >> Okay. 14 Braen Drive was an RDA to remove three trees that were hazardous to the house and we approved that RDA

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and actually I think they took them down already. Um, we did discuss the Turtle Cove situation and we also Ellen's uh Kong also agrees it's a civil matter and

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>> yeah I I just I I don't how we can get involved. The only thing the only thing is that the docks that are there do have to get registered and I think they did do the one the one that's kind of an H

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shape or whatever you want to call it. Are you >> that one I believe um has that new drawing that shows that if I'm not mistaken >> they have a newer drawing from last a

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different drawing than they had last year. >> Okay. Okay. So, hopefully they c captured >> doesn't quite capture the what's >> there picture. Okay. >> It's close. >> It's close. Okay. >> Okay. >> And the one that's the one that's um the

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homeowner to the right. Um now he had a dock I believe last year and I don't know whether he ever registered that one but he has a problem there because a lot of that's wetland. >> Yeah. and and it's tough to even find a place to put it.

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>> Okay. >> Um and the other thing the only other thing that and again it's a civil matter is that there's a right of way or a that's deed to several of the people that are on on uh the the road there on

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Mayflower and also on Colony. Okay. >> That says you have a right to access the water. >> Water. Yeah. And we we don't know whether where that dock is whether it blocks access to the water. In other words, you have to >> Does it actually show the access path to

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the water? >> It's on the map. >> Y Okay. >> Yeah. It actually runs down the center of the road. >> Yeah. Is that how it is? Okay. Okay. >> And it's in the deed. We actually had a they did give us a copy of it. >> Okay. >> But again, that's a civil matter, right? and she called again the other day and I

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said, you know, >> not a lot we can do, >> you know. >> So anyway, that's where that Thank you for that. Anything else on yours? >> Uh 159 Bergkshire A. The site visit is tomorrow

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>> at 10:30 and I will be going to represent conservation. Sabrina's on vacation so she can't go. >> Okay. And and that would be all of these pictures and everything. >> Yeah. Did you see those? >> You have that? >> I got the file. I have

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>> I Well, I gave you the You have a cop set of the pictures underneath there as a separate handout. >> All right. All right. So, you'll have something to work with >> and those. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Right. Right. You get a hernia lifting it.

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>> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Conservation update from Southwick Southfield. Nothing. They canceled two meetings in a row. >> Mhm. Okay. >> So, that is the update on

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>> Concom. Okay. >> Okay. >> Empic update. We still got one more completion to be submitted and approved by the end of this month. We're at 19 out of 20. Planning board scurrying to try to make

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that happen. and and that uh the other thing is is everybody still I haven't got any inputs from anybody here about reading and I put it back in here reading the what we're responsible for making any

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comments you know about dates um progress whatever you know but everybody needs to take an action item and read that and please get me your stuff >> this this is under the master plan >> right yeah Okay, we have we have one

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that's promised to be completed by a year from now. >> Okay. Yeah. >> But I just want to make sure we're on the same on the same page. >> Yeah. >> But let me tell you, it takes a lot longer to get approvals and >> we only meet once a month, twice a month, and the board groups don't meet.

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>> The town goes by fast. >> Okay. Anything else on impact? >> Uh, one other quick item. Uh we last time we had five we had four uh organizations that hadn't submitted their completion promises

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and I did get the historical commission so we still got three the schools park and wreck and cultural council and that's the update. >> Okay thank you CRC update. Um do you have anything Paul? Um,

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>> other than the parade, >> um, the golf tournament is on and it's supposed to be, if I recall correctly, the 12th, I believe, is a Saturday >> of what? >> September. >> September 12th. Okay. >> I imagine the 13th would be a rain date.

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>> Yeah. >> Is that at Edgewood? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And there hasn't been a formal announcement. U Michelle just touched on it briefly at the Okay. >> It's not up on their website yet or anything. And the parade is scheduled for >> the fourth. >> The 4th with a rain date of the 5th.

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>> Yeah. >> And the the concert from what I read on on your website is the concert at Bavs starts at three >> and the parade that you gather at Babs Beach and the parade starts at 5 parade.

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>> That's what Yeah, that's in the application. That's what it says. You're right. Okay. Yep, I got that. Okay. >> All righty. Uh, next on the hit parade 129 North Lake Air, anything new from Concom on that? Probably,

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you know, >> I have nothing new and I'm not sure it's who's who's going to solve the issue. >> I I'm not sure it's solvable >> because it's, you know, it's a civil matter.

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It's not a chapter 91 problem. Well, it is in the sense that it it's a violation of not having either a local permit or chapter anymore, which is again that's mass C, >> you know.

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>> So, maybe we'll send something to the what's her name? >> Oh, who we got? Hops. >> Oh, it's Cliff. Cliff, he'll be recording. Cliff, are you going to be recording? >> Yes, I will, Dick. Thank you. >> Okay.

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And I'm just going to sew note. >> Yep. >> Yep. Okay. Gotcha. And that was at 708. Okay. >> Now, next. >> So, back on that really. No, no one's

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not going to take in charge of that. >> Like, like Nor said, >> the 91 doesn't even want to get involved, right? They >> they're not compliant to LPP, so we can't stiff. They might that might change though because they do have a new >> for they operated for a long time

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without uh >> chapter 91. >> No, no, but I mean when David Cameron left >> Oh, you're talking state. >> That state, right? And now there's a new and I he actually called me the other night about 159 and they are getting

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involved. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> Okay. And and uh so he had he was on for Mark Stinson. I had talked to Mark and Mark said he was going to fill the boss in and he did. And so the boss called me

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at home, you know, called me on my cell and we were on probably half 3/4 of an hour and he was, you know, kind of getting the lay of the land and he was going to then get a couple of his people involved in it besides Mark and

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start probing. But the what he wanted was anything that conservation lake management we've been sending them lots they have from us they have tons of stuff >> but if if you go through the files I think what you'll find is Dennis Clark

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when he was uh concom coordinator uh he was down there and had taken photos had taken and there were there was dialogue with with Balderian company. So, you may find that in the records if you dig back.

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>> I've got the folders at home, so I'll >> Okay, >> I'll look I'll look through them before the meeting. >> And these these photos are phenomenal because those photos take us back to 1996, I think. >> Uh we can, you know, we can talk about that when we get to that item.

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>> Okay. >> All right. So 129 North Lake, it just kind of has to sit until mass D does something. Uh 141 Congam that's over and done with and it'll come off our list because he

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the restaurant. Yeah, the restaurant cuz they got the liquor license and he withdrew his request to uh change that all. And next on the hit phrase,

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the 2026 solitude invasives page 24 to 26. They did the first u assessment and 25 and six show the maps. >> Mhm. And there was so little um and and

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hydrillaa was virtually not existent right now. They can't it's it was too early. Uh while the ply leaf pondweed and and water mil foil they can see but they couldn't see the hydrillaa yet.

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>> So they don't know it's it's not there because it hasn't grown enough. Uh we did sign the agreement with Stantech to continue on with their Edna uh process. >> Okay. >> And Solitude, it's they're already on

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board to be um the treatment company and assessment and treatment and whatnot for three years. >> But they won that uh that bid. >> Okay. uh which is good because they they know the place, you know, it's not you don't

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have to train anybody. And the other the other one that had bid on it was way way higher and also didn't address a lot of the issues that they had to as part of the require required responses to the

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RFP. you know, if you only answer one, three, five, and nine. >> Yeah. >> You're not eligible. So, um, and then the next thing, the Army Corps Hydrrella. Uh, so year three,

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we're starting year three of the three-year grant of the 250k grant, and I just issued the purchase order for Stantech to get them going. They gave us

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a, you know, uh, a proposal. It's been accepted by us and by uh DCR because the money comes from DCR and they're under contract the DCR. So >> Okay. >> Yeah. We don't have It's great because we don't have to bid anything.

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>> Yep. >> You know >> that's who selected. Um the next one NCS PAR is 34 to 40 and that's you can read that if you haven't

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already. That's the last meeting from the May progress meeting and you know like I said it's it going along very very well. I mean we've got to find uh options. They're fine-tuning those which we will learn about tomorrow. Are

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you gonna be able to attend it? >> I'll be late because I'll be 1:59 at 10. >> Oh, okay. Okay. But I'll be here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I think Eric's back or tomorrow. I think he was just gone today. I'm not sure. Uh Ken Wagner

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couldn't make it. And can you make it? >> I'll be on Zoom. >> Oh, you'll be on Zoom or coming here. >> James, I'll be online. I won't be here. >> Okay. You won't be here. You won't physically be here. Okay. I'll be physically here. Um and so that's that is going very well. I

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did also turn in which you have copies of the uh pages page 38 and 39. That's part of the economic benefits. probably have not seen that

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>> and that took a lot to get from Southfield from um Sabrina gave me north the north pond conservation area. Um Karen gave me Karen shoot gave me the data for the for the uh beach. You know

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how many depend I got the information for Babs Beach from the director there. He dug that out for me. And let's see what else is there. uh the rail trail that came from data that uh Pina Valley

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Planning does and those are actual counts and they do a lot of those and they they take them in all different places on it. So that's really really good. >> Yeah. And then I when I did it I with my email that I sent I commented you know it's also the restaurants the gas

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stations the you know uh other businesses that benefit >> y >> from all the people that that use Congam. So any rate they like I say I'm looking forward to tomorrow's meeting because

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this they have really been working. They've done a lot of what was needed for MEPA and for um something cultural. I don't know that there's been groups out there checking to make sure there is

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or is not anything that uh if if work gets done, could it impact >> y >> something that you're not supposed to do? Um, and you see the Stantech I gave you that uh

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gave him the go ahead and then what's really kind of good uh is on page 42. So the watershedbased plan we have put in

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our through our hat in the ring with it's a very lengthy process to create what I did. Uh the two pages that you see here >> were a combination of my writing uh

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giving it to Eric adding some more water quality stuff to Ken Wagner. He did his. Then the the attachments are are critical because you're allow you're allowed only two pages >> paper. >> That's it.

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>> So those are two full pages and and I didn't go to resort to microtype. But um I did attach Eric's entire he gave he gave me the latest and greatest everything that he

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has on water quality and I commented in here about the original water quality started by CRC and and that was Mike White. I don't know how many of you guys remember Mike >> White, >> but uh you know he was doing that for a

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while and we actually wound up getting some of their equipment when they when he left they turned over their equipment which was not a lot you know we have a lot more equipment now today for monitoring and u then I also attached

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the our our well our water quality but Um Ken Wagner's report, remember his one that was about a half an inch thick? >> Yeah. >> For the Yeah. For the >> Yeah. >> Alum treatment.

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>> So that had a lot of water quality data in it. >> Yeah. >> So I'm hoping that we make the cut. You never know. It won't be for a lack of trying. Um and then so that watershed based plan

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and what's nice if if you're not familiar with that this CI uh is it's Bob Hartzell is the one that's the focus for and that's where we had to email all that information to.

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>> So there supposedly the choice will be made the selection will be made by the end of the month by the end of June. >> Wow. And it has to be blessed. The recommendation will come from CEI to mass D. Mass E will go yeah ver yeah yay

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verily yay or no you know or you know negotiate. So it's supposed to happen by the end of June. >> And the good thing there is if if we do get it CI will do the grunt work for

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creating the watershedbased plan the ninestep plan. Okay, >> which is really good. You know, they'll we'll have to provide data, but they will, you know, they will ask all the right questions and and put the words to the paper.

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>> Great. >> Yeah. So, let's hope. >> Yep. >> And like I said, 159 we kind of hit already. You've got the package with all the uh recent photos. Those are are really interesting when you when you

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look at them. Uh they go back. I put them in order of date. So the first photo that you have, which is on page two, is the only photo that's on the east side of the road. In other words, on the lake side of the road.

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>> All the other ones you can see that area always was underwater. And there's endless endless photos of it over many years. 86 01 uh 86 99 uh 01

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um 06 and I think there's one more. Yeah. Then several in ' 06 different times of the year. So that and the comment that was made which you have in the in the uh

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email that I transmitted it with uh is that the the person that saw it was describing how their kids used to go down there and they'd wade and and whatnot in the summertime. was a nice

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place to cool off and in the winter they'd skate on it and you can see the vegetation, you know, the trees and the vegetation and everything else. And there most of these are in color, by the way. So, uh I do have the color ones with me and I scan them in color. So, if

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you need them for uh >> what I send you a file in color >> are in color. Yes. Okay. >> Yeah. So, I scanned them all in color. So, anybody that's looking at them, I just didn't want to print everything in color. You know what year the company club made all the changes?

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>> You mean like like the pond and >> Yeah. >> No, >> because that changed water flow. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Be nice to know in relation to these pictures. >> I think Country Club might have done

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their thing after some of these pictures. >> I believe so. you know, but the other thing back here. >> Yeah. The other thing to keep in mind is that there's a it's um it's called a water course and and I'm very familiar with it because when we were doing the

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work on the drainage work on sheep pasture road uh I had to go look at all those deeds on those properties and there is water that flows behind the houses that are on the east side pasture

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road >> and it flows l literally over the in the water course. >> Okay. >> That that water course goes along picks up the water from the overflow from the pond. >> Yeah. >> And then it turns So it's heading

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basically south, then it turns kind of east. So, it goes past the pond, then it turns east, goes under the it goes along the the rail trail on the west side for a little bit, then it ducks under

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through a a good size box cover. It's a I think like a 4ft, if I remember correctly, 4x4 granite box cover. and and then it turns south again when it comes out of there and it runs along the

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rail trail for quite a distance, hundreds of feet. And you've had pictures of those that I had emailed >> a long time ago and then then it turns uh easterly kind of southeasterly then easterly and and then it got moved. And

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that's part of the problem is that it it wasn't it's not where it used to be. the bed of that intermittent stream got shifted to the north. So it used to be further over further towards the farmland.

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>> Okay. >> So that got moved. >> Yeah. >> And and the empoundment area got added and an earth and dam and then the dam failed in 2019. So and there were no permits for any of that. >> Right.

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So that so this gives you well before um all the trees were stripped these photos and you can actually confirm that with the uh aerial maps that are on the town website

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that you know went from being totally forested to basically nothing taller than a half an inch >> since since I've back here. We've not seen water at this level in there at all.

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>> Well, part of what we did when the when the um the we did the detention pond on the other side, >> Yeah. >> we cleaned the the outlet the outlet was clogged on the um east side.

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>> Oh, okay. And so as part of that was to restore that and and there's a forbay. >> Okay. >> And then the the detention pond and then there's a a gabian basket notched wall. >> Yeah. >> And then a a long grass swale that has a

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bit of a curve to it. >> And so at that time it relieved the what was happening to us. It just flocked for probably decades. >> Okay.

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>> So, at any rate, and and at the time these photos were taken, it was all wetlands and everything in there. And that's what Dennis had seen when he went down there back be probably maybe in the 20 15 2016

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somewhere in there. It's you can see it on the aerials. You can see where the trees disappeared, >> right? >> So, it was before the trees disappeared is when they started to disappear. >> So, anyway, I thought that would probably help you. Um,

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now next we're getting near the end. Quickly, come on, page. Separate. 157 Feeding Hills Road. Do you know did they you know the >> grapes did they approach you guys yet? >> They have not submitted an going to

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modify their RDA or give us an RDA. We have not seen that yet. And what's interesting is I'm kind of c curious how they can actually do that under an RDA because unless they've defined how they're gonna make sure that those

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absolutely do not break loose, the only way you can do that is using helical screws. >> Yeah. >> Or you'd have to drive, you know, pilings in. You need something that's going to prevent them from taking off. >> Right. >> Do do you have a drawing or anything or

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or you don't even have that? You said they haven't submitted anything. >> I haven't seen I haven't seen anything. >> I would ask that as soon as you get something, would you share that with us? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Um and unless

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let's see, did I have anything on the end of there? I don't think so. I think we are. Yeah, I think we covered everything. Let's see. Anchor ramps. Um, >> are we going on the uh

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>> Oh, the navigation lights and boo. >> Yeah, >> you got to get enough bricks so you >> I'm hoping that we have uh Michelle did have you heard anything more about that, Michelle? Apparently somebody on Berkshire Avenue. Do you know who that is?

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>> Um, yeah, Linda Champ. >> Okay, I've heard that. >> I believe has got bricks, a bunch of them. So it's basically I believe you told us how many more you need and you can get them both. >> We we would need we've got 20

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something buoys. We've covered we have 24 buoys or 26 buoys something like that. And we've done probably six. So you need three bricks per buoy. So

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say you know like 60 bricks roughly. And I have made the uh the the stainless steel cables and everything ready to thread them through bricks. And and Rick uh Wlock came over today. He went out and he fixed there was there

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was a a buoy over a danger buoy over on one of the old ice house pier. >> Oh, is that right? >> Yeah. And it was people were having trouble getting around it to their dock. So they asked if we could move it. Is that over on South Pond? >> No, on Middle Pond. >> On Middle Pond. >> Yeah, it's just down from us.

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>> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> So, at any rate, uh he took care of that today. and he said as soon as we get the uh the brick. >> And then I think Mark said he was going to go out or somebody was going to

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there's a volunteer it's in the in these emails uh volunteers name that volunteered to Michelle and that information got shared with Mark and with um Rick and Eric and myself. So we've got somebody who said

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that he would go out and help >> install those. My recommendation is whoever installs them, because I did one, I did the first one, and that you use a a snap ring and a and a rope and have the rope tied to the boat, so if

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you lose it, you know, if you it doesn't go to the bottom, but they're they're easy to install. You just snap them on the on the ring on the bottom of the buoy. >> Great. Mhm. >> Um and and the other thing I in talking

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with uh Rick today was he he asked about that. He says they're easy to remove, right? You know, oh yeah, very easy. Says because I don't want to drag the buoys out with a pile of bricks attached to them.

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>> So we took care of that. Um when this chat one of the thing again I just want to bring it up so that we we kind of if if we have to do something let's do it. Remember we had the issues with

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chapter 7512 section 12 about sunken vehicles you know and that has to be a change to that that bylaw. So, we should focus maybe the next

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meeting on the exact words we want. We know what we want to do that we talked about already. We just have to kind of get it, words, smmith it, and then turn it over to uh we'll get it to Nicole and they'll get it to the select board

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and then it goes to they'll they'll wind up with a a hearing and all that stuff and then it goes to town council to word smith it and make it into legal ease, you know. So, we got to get that process going because they

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probably will have, you know, usually have a a winter special town meeting. That would be the time to >> Oh, okay. >> hitch on that. Don't wait a whole year. >> Um, so, you know, take a look at 7512 and make any recommendations you want

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and and look at the past. You'll see where we talked about it and I can email if change. >> Okay. And the last thing that he had, because we were talking about it earlier, is the nighttime speeding is really out of

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control. It's >> there's there's jet skis out there in the dark towing people. Uh there's jet skiis racing up and down, >> boats racing up and down, some with lights, some without lights. >> Uh you got jet skiis that that can do

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50, 60, 70 miles an hour. And the >> guy who sees them is this guy. >> Yeah. >> I could see them down the other end of the lake, but they've got they got to be going by no >> Oh, yeah. >> property making a big turn down there. >> Yeah. >> You get to see them all. >> Yep.

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>> And you know, before somebody winds up at the bottom of the lake and we need to get something going. >> And the one thing >> my personal note on that is more people on the lake need to call. Yes. And

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that's what I was told by the chief needs >> to be a thorn in their side >> sergeant about that. >> Yeah. But I call and it's like, "Oh, yeah. It's Mike again." Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> And I get that guy that's I don't know where he's at. He doesn't call the Mong Lake when I talk to him. >> They go to Westfield.

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>> Yeah. I'll pass it along. >> Yeah. >> But I'm not going to call 911. >> No. >> So they're not local. But the other way you can do it is you can dial um 5348 the the police department and then

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there's a you can get the the sergeant that's on >> on duty >> on the on duty. >> Oh wow. >> Yeah. You can call 5348 and there's an option where you get the sergeant on duty. >> Oh >> and that's probably the better way because now you're not going through

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>> Yeah. to because they they don't understand, right? you know, they really don't. >> He just said, "I'll pass it along." >> Yeah. And so at least that way you get one of our >> right >> own town sergeant. So that's what I would recommend. You know, you call

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5695348, then take the option that gets you to the sergeant. >> Um I think >> I I I I'm always just concerned. I just don't want to see anybody get hurt. No, that's all it is. Yeah. Well, you you mean one of our one of our selectmen had

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a boat go right through his >> and something happened after that, but unfortunately you don't want it to be the accident that now we got to do something about it. You know, someone gets hurt or killed. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Does anybody else have anything?

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>> I'm good. >> Everybody good? >> I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> I move. >> I'll second. >> All right. All M second all Y

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and all in favor >> opposed abstain. Unanimous we're out of here. That probably the fastest meeting ever.