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Australia. Damn. What you Special city council meeting Tuesday. Thank you for awesome res. To the flag of the United States of America >> and to the republic for which it stands.

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One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Mr. May have role, please. >> Mayor John Eric Hoover >> here. >> Vice Mayor Chris Mayer >> here. >> Councilman Robert Hubard >> here. >> Councilwoman Lisa Burke

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>> here. >> Councilwoman Christine Sullivan >> here. >> City Attorney Nancy Meyer >> here. >> Interim City Manager Salary >> here.

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Thank you. Okay, first up we have uh option for public comment. And so we're going to take uh we got several signed up here. So I'm going to start with Michael Schwab. Welcome. And uh just so we know um public participation is encouraged. If you are addressing the council, step to the podium and state your name and address for the record. Uh

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please limit your general comments to three minutes. For comments on action items, please limit comments to three minutes on the current topic. Please limit your conversations while sitting in the audience during council business and silence your cell phones so as not to interfere with everyone's ability to hear the comments of both public and the council. >> Welcome.

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>> Good evening um [clears throat] mayor, council members. Uh my name is Michael Schwab. I just recently moved to Port Richie. Um I live at 5433 Blueoint Drive and uh I lived in Newport Richie my

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whole life. born and raised, moved to Port Richie. But I'm basically expressing my support today for the dredging act of the canals and and basically everything you guys are planning on doing. Um, we have a huge

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problem in our canal specifically with it being extremely shallow. I know it's I the project that I'm kind of going over isn't about just recreational boating, but also we're at a main drain

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point from uh US Highway 19, and I feel like it could cause future problems down the road. So, I I just definitely would like some overview and some progress and

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momentum on the dredging act that you guys are hosting. Uh, it's a huge issue and I pay a lot of tax money to, you know, live on waterfront property and really like to be able to use my boat

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and any future problems that could cause any drainage issues in 19 as well. But, um, that's pretty much it that I wanted to go over. Um, thank you. >> Thanks for coming. Appreciate you.

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>> Thank you. So you're on Blue Point on the right when you're going up Blue Point on the right. >> I'm on the right hand side of Blue Point. >> Not the new house, the one that recently sold >> in between Quist >> where uh Elizabeth or Betsy used to live. >> Where Betsy used to live. So I'm I'm

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your 10-year neighbor. If you go all the way to the end of Bluepoint, my daughter lives at the end on the left there. All right. >> In the Grey house with the docks and the jet skis and all that stuff out there. So highly aware of of what needs to be done with the canals. >> Yes. and especially with your canal and that's on the that's why we're spending

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the money we just dropped which is about a half million to get all that stuff done. >> Perfect. That's good news to me. >> A lot more money than that. So keep your ears tuned and keep coming to the meeting. >> Okay. Yeah. Thank you guys. >> Nice to meet you by the way. We're glad you're here. >> Yeah. Welcome. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Thank you.

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>> Okay. Next up I have Amos Owens I believe. >> Welcome. >> Amos Owens 5439 Blueoint Drive. Evening council and mayor. Um my neighbor was just up here speaking and he is correct.

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Our canal does need to be dredged. As you are aware, we have a silting problem. The it's my understanding the retention pond that is on the east side of old post. The culvers were dug underneath that road that go into our canal. And I understand that would solve

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some flooding problems that happen on the east side of old post. However, every time it rains, all the silt, everything else is winding winding up in our canal. We are tied dependent at this point. There are certain moments in the day if we are out too late, we're not

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getting home. If we if we want to go out in in the morning, certain times, we just cannot make it. And it's all silt. The dredging needs to happen. I'm pretty sure that the uh individual we bought the house from had heard this was going to be dredged. This is going to be dredged. This is going to be dredged.

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think he just gave up on it and decided to leave town for that reason. I love this town. This is a really great community. But we are wanting to be boating people and the canal situation is sort of taking that away from us. I don't know

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whether that you can get some money from the state county because how whoever funded the coverts this problem was started because of that without that water silting in and everything else in the water silting in pretty sure it'd be a nice deep canal still. Thank you.

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>> Yeah, thank you. Next is Vanessa Phillips. Welcome. >> Hello. Uh Vanessa Phillips. I live at 5840 Sunglow Avenue, not on a canal, still in Port Richie. Um, thank you guys for having me. I really appreciate your

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dedication to the city. Um, and I am here by mistake, wrong meeting, but um, I really would like to offer my time, talent, and treasure to the city that I live in in Port Richie. Um, I just graduated college from St. Leo with an

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MBA in human resources. Um, and I have a AA and a bachelor's in organizational management and supervision. Um, I have a lot of experience in nonprofit and um, just trying to get my career started and I think that the best place would do it

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would be to volunteer in the place that I live. So, thank you for considering me for the uh, the CAC board and um, happy to be here. Thank you. >> Thank you. And that's all I got uh on paper for this thing. Any joining us like to speak?

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>> Welcome. >> I'm sorry. Must have wrote my name in the wrong place. >> Oh, you're James South? >> Yes, sir. >> Yeah, you had it on the agenda. I see you're I'll move you up. >> I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor, city council. My name is James South. I live at 5425 Blueoint Drive and I'm also here about

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the canal. I'm a recent uh addition to your city. I moved here last August and the reason I moved here was specifically because of the canal. >> Uhhuh. Um, I guess I didn't do my due diligence enough. I visited, looked at my house at high tide. Everything was

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great. Uh, moved in, looked. >> They schedule the showings at high tide. >> That's the real estate agent knew her job. [laughter] Um but but another thing about that particular canal is we do have several resident or several houses on there um

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that are rentals that are Airbnbs and people come to the town specifically for the water the water aspect of it. Um the city has a lot to offer. The downtown the revitalization that's been going on down there is wonderful. Um, but the

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other thing with with that is your infrastructure and your canals are just like roads and should be treated as such. In my mind, if you have them, they need to be maintained. Your roads are pretty well maintained. That particular canal is not. And I'd just like to offer

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my encouragement that we do everything we can to keep that part of our infrastructure strong and vibrant. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for your time. >> Thanks for being here. >> Anyone else? Show hands. >> Okay. Obviously here here for dredging

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and that's that's great. Um we've been working on this for a little while. Um the city in general been working on it for years. Um it did have a uh a point where they got a little dredging done and then that kind of went by the wayside. There were permits in place. Just kind of give you some history, but there were permits in place. Those permits expired. And so that's what

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we've been ramping back up is to get those permits reacquired. Um and that's what this process here is is kind of the finalization of that to to move that along. We spent about $450,000 last year on the agenda nights. Another hundred or so to move that along. Once those permits are done, then we got to

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look at actually execution, right? And that's that's the big part and that's where the money comes in. So, we'll be [snorts] as we wait on this permitting process, which I think takes about a year. Is that to get the to get the permits time frame wise? >> Um, it could it could take up to three.

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So, between one and three depending on FD and Army Corps. >> Yeah. So basically what our our goal is is during that time of waiting for the permits then we're going to start looking at options uh for the funding and there's there's several different mechanism out there. There's grant money. There's also other other ways to

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do that. Um I have engaged uh Congress Bill Rockus showed him city showed him kind of the the issues we had and he was on board with helping with that. So hopefully there's going to be some money we can capture to help do some of that work. But this is the first step is to get the permits and stuff. So you won't see dreaders in the ground very quickly.

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Um but hopefully the next few years we'll be able to start execution on that. And then we want to also u make that something as you talked about maintenance-wise we kind of write that in the code so that future councils don't just drop the ball. It continues to be a part of what we do every day like fixing the roads we fix the canals.

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So uh early stages but we're we're definitely engaged and moving towards a solution. So >> I want to tell them about the YouTube meetings for the previous work that we've done on this. >> Oh yeah, of course. If you want to go out and check um some of our old meetings where we talked about some of

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this and get kind of caught up on where we're at, those meetings are out on YouTube that you can watch. Um and if if if you want to get the specific dates, you can even without doing that do a public records request and say what's the dates of the dredging conversation and get that back to you. You can go and watch those. Chris, >> I was just going to say, you know, I've

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been here 10 years and I've got 18 inches of muck off my seaw wall right there at the end of Blue Point. Okay. I mean, if you jumped in there as a kid, you your feet would go to the bottom and you get stuck and drowned. You know, that's how bad it is. So, we're familiar with it, but there's there's a lot of regulations that have to do with this.

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They they test the soil to find out what's in it, you know, because when you pull it out there, what are you going to do with it? They want to know what's in it. And then they're checking for seaggrass and all kinds of other crazy stuff. So these these tests that are being done now that cost over a half million dollars, you know, they got to go out there and they literally they just survey all the ground underneath

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the water in all the areas that we've highlighted and mapped and everyone that we're talking to in this room has already had their their uh waterways have been tested looked at and they're going to be on the map for getting drenched. So and we're very familiar with that silt coming across the road

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there and dumping in as well. So yeah, if you look at one of the most recent meetings, you'll see the maps where they've actually went out surveyed. It shows all the depths and all the engineering behind that. So you actually see what specific Bluepoint Drive looks like from their surveys. So a lot of good information. So that's that's part of the peritting process. But anyway, thanks for coming. Appreciate you coming

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out. Um, okay. So moving on. No comments from you. S general comments? >> Good. >> Not at this time. >> All right. So moving right on the council business. Item number one, approval of phase two of dredging project which includes 6% design drawings, FD and USACE permit

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applications by Stantech. Um before I pass that introduction, uh we took this up the other night at a regular meeting and um we there was some additional just give the public some information. So we were ready to move forward on this. There were some additional areas that we were uh want to have considered in that.

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uh they came back with those with a price on those and so we had whittleled that down um to just a couple spots that we we thought were were maybe an issue and they gave us another price and so that's where we're at tonight to see if we want to move forward with those or go back to original proposal. So with that

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I'll if you want to introduce it any further is it >> uh phase two as proposed will focus on advancing the project by preparing 60% design drawings submitting FDP and USAC permit applications are responding to agency requests for additional information. The scope also includes

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further hydrographic and seaggrass surveys for additional dredge areas designated by the city council um from our June 18th workshop. Um as we discussed on Tuesday, uh council decided to bring this back to the engineer um he

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went ahead and per per the direction and modifications that the council specified, he created another proposal. So tonight on your agenda packet, we actually have a total of three. The original proposal with no additions was

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$16,282.75. Our second proposal, which included the Harbor Point area extension in front of Waterfront Park and then also part of the um part of the main river, was 149 $149,61083. And our new updated proposal that was

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prepared yesterday is $140,7183. So I'm looking uh this is a time constrained situation because we want to make uh the deadline for September 20th before our caggress survey that we did earlier last year expires. So, um, this

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will allow the engineer to look over and analyze the additional spots and then get this in before that deadline. So, this is why we're here tonight for tonight's special meeting. >> Okay. Open up for motion or discussion. >> Discussion discussion and a motion. Um,

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I'm blown away that Stantech came back at $140ome,000. We reduced that scope of work by 75%. And they kept the price up by 75% of the original price. So I make a motion we completely deepix the entire new

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proposal and go back to the original one at 106 for the whole job and any any of the new additions that we put in there. We just don't do those now. We'll deal with that later. That's my motion. >> Okay. There second. >> I second. >> I'd like to hear from Bob first. >> Yeah. Okay. Um so I got second from

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Lisa. Um Bob, I'm open up for discussion. You got anything to add? >> Well, yeah. I uh just got to read a little bit of this and uh the new proposal, I got a text from Said the new

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proposal is only $9,000 difference. >> Yes. >> Is that not true? >> Yes. It's a $9,539 difference from the original 149 61083. The new proposal is 1407183

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uh with with the with the back and forth discussions that I had with Matthew Star yesterday. It's, you know, that's that's the formula that he pretty much formulated between the survey team. Uh they're going to be out there anyway. It's not really a matter of how far we

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reduce. It's just the matter of that they are going to be out there and deployed work in these areas. So we can it really didn't reduce that much of a difference between what we um the areas that we shrank down. >> Huh.

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>> Yeah, that's uh very disappointing. >> Yeah, it was I was I was shocked myself when I saw the number. I was expecting, you know, that 106 to be maybe 116 or something like that for just additional areas, but it's like, you know, you might as well just do the whole thing that we had on there anyway that we

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talked about that we didn't need. Um, I will say, Bob, I did I did get some information um about the channel there coming out of Miller's Bayou. Um, remember I I estimate it's probably around 100 foot based on the the scale of of the map. Um, I did confirm that

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that channel is 85 foot wide um that they that once they would that surveyed and so that would be once it was dredged out, it would be 85 foot uh across there, which is more than enough room to have two vessels pass side by side. And uh Matt Star did say that that he would

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probably leave it at that. There's no reason to make that any any wider there. Um and so the so that kind of solves that one concern out of the the park area. Um the other one obviously is the the sandbar kind of there around Whiskey

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Joe's. Um that's an isolated area. It would be nice to obviously have that not there, but I think we definitely need to mark that um because obviously the the Cody River on the west side of that more than enough uh width across there. We just need to make sure that they don't

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go across that uh area. Um and so that would be the other thing. But again, to to just do that area would cost 40 grand. So I think we we maybe look at that >> to do the sandbar in front of Whiskey Joe's that was $40,000. where he came out and did that or he did the entire

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scope that we had is basically same price >> because they they they permitted and dredged the whole poor Richie Marina for less than that. >> Yeah. All I know is that I was kind of disappointed to see that need to call them. [laughter] >> And and so I guess in my rationale is is

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that at the at the point we'd want to do something, we can always go out and permit that specific area and do it if it's something we going to do. And again, it's to have it in the permit now. Um, there's no telling how much that would cost to remove all that silt

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out of there. Um, so but I don't think it's worth $40,000 to add it in the current permit. And that's kind of what the motion is is as well. So >> you can you you can also in your times where you're going to um you can modify

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the permit during your renewal. So, right, >> when you in the when the permit is ready to lapse and you're going to renew it, you can always >> add a piece to it. >> Add a piece to it. >> Okay. You know, because you're going to be updating certain surveys during those renewal periods, right? So, you know, FD

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will ask for a new seaggrass survey or they'll ask for another geological and at that time if you're going to do that anyhow for your renewal, >> add add something. So it doesn't, you know, it and after my conversations with him, he did specify that it's, you know,

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it's it's clearly up to you. You know, it's like he's, you know, he's here to serve and try and get this project moving along as as efficiently as possible. So, but I think that with the 85 ft that we talked to him about and how, you know, that two boats will have no problem crossing there. Um, and and

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the the biggest concern about the sandbar near the park, that can be an entire another project altogether. Right. Right. So, let's say, you know, you know, you wanted to the council wanted to have a a large dock there and draw people in, that can be a part of a

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whole separate project where you would maybe dredging out for that area anyway as part of that project. So, that that would just be se separately permitted anyhow. Um, so that's my input. >> Yeah. Any anything else?

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>> Okay. I the way I felt like I stated the other night is I think it'd be fiscally irresponsible of us to spend another 40 50 grand to do that when we don't really it's more of a nice to have thing and again we can always address it later on when we have a better idea of what we would want to do there anyway. Um obviously we need to make sure that it's

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marked appropriately so folks don't run our ground. Um but uh the areas that we have mapped out now in the current permitting process will open up the entire city waterways um pretty much. So I think we're off to a good start. Let's let's roll with that. Focus on that and

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then as we see other things that may come up in the future, including that area, maybe we we would come out with another set of permitting to to address those. But I don't think they're they're crucial at this point, especially knowing that we do have the 85 foot there going in out of those. So, um any

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other comments? Any public comment? Okay. See none, I put the vote all in favor signify by saying I >> I opposed. Motion carries. >> I just want to clarify. So we we approve the original proposal for 106 28275.

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>> So no changes. >> Okay. >> Okay. And with that that concludes council business. Um >> motion to adjurnn. >> Okay. >> Second. >> Have a motion to second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. I. >> I. >> Good night everybody. Thank you.

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>> Thanks for coming folks. Thank you. No second and fourth Tuesdays at six o'clock. We love you. >> And what day am I supposed to be here? >> August. >> Also interested in all the YouTubes and

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everything for the parks last year. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Bye. >> See you guys on Facebook. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. Thank you everyone.