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It's all >> I don't know why I'm here. I'm so damn tired. >> Me too. >> Well, I got Mike walked out council meeting council municipal corporation in the county meeting will begin at 7 p.m. on

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July 22nd, 2026. building 25 L Avenue Compton Lake consistent with the open magazine be open for public comments and have the accordance to the terms and conditions of the burough's municipal code and >> we stand for a flag please

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to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible. with West and Council is to deliberate on the best of prompted links. >> In accordance with the New Jersey Open

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Public Meeting Act, adequate notice of this meeting has been provided. The time, date, location, purpose of this meeting and agenda was posted on the municipal building bulletin board, transmitted to individuals requesting notice and published electronically on the official website of the Burough of Pompton Lakes. Roll call, please. >> Mayor,

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>> here. >> Council President Kent, >> here. >> Council, >> here. Councilman. >> Yes. >> Councilman. >> Excused. Yes. >> Councilman Sanders. >> Scott.

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>> Here. >> Thank you. >> You hear me? >> Yep. We got you. >> Here. >> Councilman >> here. >> With us this evening is our burough attorney Mark Cinderella and our bur administrator Michael Chief Anthony Rodri. >> Okay. Thank you. under presentations.

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Today we're going to do a redevelopment design standard that we've been working on for uh numerous months put together by our colleers, our burrowing planners. So just before we start, this group was made up of individuals of our uh um

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council, our planning board, uh redevelopment board, and some other individuals from the town. So it wasn't just one group. We wanted input from every different direction. And uh I think Kristen did a good job in kind of answering everybody's concerns and questions. And we had numerous meetings with a lot of concerns and questions that were brought up and then addressed

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in the following plan. So with that, I'm going to ask Kristen the the planner to come up and do her spiel. >> Sure. >> Good evening everybody. Um you I probably look familiar to you, but if not, I'm Kristen Russell with Collier's Engineering and Design. Um I am your

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burrow planner and um the burrow asked me to um kind of facilitate uh a process where a design guide would be written for um for the burrow and that as uh the mayor just um explained this was a group

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of many people from you know council president Kent was there um some planning board redevelopment agency municipal representatives um the SID. So, we had um direction from um a lot of

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different angles and a lot of input. And so, I'm just going to summarize for you this evening um what is in this document and what the document um how it will be used and what the intent is um for those of you up front document looks kind of

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like this. Though mine's black and white, yours will be in pretty colors. Um, and what I present to you tonight will be a summary of what's in there. I am not going to go through um every single regul regulation and um recommendation. I'm happy to discuss

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anything in detail that you feel I don't cover um thoroughly enough, but I just want to give you a sense of what um of what is being covered. Um so to start things off, the purpose of this was that um the bureau expressed

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that the existing zoning standards and design standards within both your zoning code and um some of the redevelopment plans um did not bring enough specificity and nuance to the look and feel that was desired for downtown

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Thompson Lakes. Um this document will essentially fill that gap. Um it will help the burrow, any developers, any property owners, anybody who who is um

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actively owning using building um in downtown should refer to this guide um to get an understanding of of what the bureau sees as the aesthetic of downtown Pumpin Lakes. This is intended to work

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in partnership with the zoning code or the redevelopment plans. Um it does not conflict with them. It adds to them. Um can you move to the next slide please? The um image shown on the screen

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includes um several zoning districts. The downtown redevelopment areas, the and the downtown business districts. Anything that's colored is where the divi where the design guides will apply. So this is not

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something that will apply to residential neighborhoods. For example, this is really for a downtown application. >> And if I could just jump in and I'm sure she'll probably cover this. When we first put redevelopment together, rightly or wrongly, we gave the choice

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to of in or out of the redevelopment zones to the businesses. So that's why you'll you'll see on the maps that she presented, there's some businesses that are in the redevelopment zone and a business right next door that's not because they got to choose if they were in or out. >> Yeah. And that's kind of

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that impacts where this would apply, but um it is not being modified by this document. Okay, so this document starts off with two pages of definitions. I've just put some up here to give you a flavor of

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what's included. Um, as well as the graphic that goes with it to help the non-archchitect understand what we're talking about. Um the definitions talk about everything from architectural features such as facade, display window, cornice, mention signs, we define ground

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sign, projecting sign and um kind of concepts like building scale and streetscape. So that when we use these terms in the document, everyone's talking about the same thing. Again, none of these definitions conflict with the definitions in your zoning code.

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They either mirror them or they complement them. I also should mention that some of these regul um some of these uh concepts and regulations are also found in your SID and we worked with

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them carefully to make sure that there was no conflict there as well either in definition or in requirements expectations. Next slide please. So I'm going to now give you a sense of how things are being regulated. Again,

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this is not every word that is in the design guide, but I'm pulling out some highlights to help you understand. Um, we talk about things like materials, and we say that all facads facing a public right ofway, we say they need to be

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masonry or natural materials. This will include wood, um, fiber, cement, brick, stucco, stone, um, metal, glass. What we're looking for is not vinyl siding, for example. We want a material that is

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going to um reflect the um historic era of the building where where appropriate where we have old buildings. Um material that is going to stand up to the elements and to time and will age nicely. Um and just have a nice um look

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a downtown that doesn't look cheap, right? Um, we also talk about the facades. Um, we're looking for, um, articulation such as bay windows, um, balconies and demarcations. Um, accentuating individ individual

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storefronts. Um, in the case of a long building, we want that to be broken up into vertical um, ba bays or um, you know, elements so that it doesn't look like one long building, but it still carries the the look and massing of what

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would typically be smaller storefronts along a along a street. Um, we also require a street um, sorry, a cornice along the street, a cornice at the top of the building and midline cornises are encouraged. So midline cornness is what you would see above the ground floor

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generally retail to kind of break up the difference between the retail at the bottom of a building and often residential above it. Um in terms of colors, we're looking for muted hues on the main body of the building with some brighter accents. We

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had a lot of discussion in our group about what kind of colors we want to see in Pompton Lakes. I shouldn't say we. it's you, not me. Um, and there's a really um careful balancing act that

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needs to be taken between telling people what shade of a color they can use, but also directing them into um what would be appropriate in a downtown like Pompton Lakes. So, um, at the end of the guide, and I'll and there's a slide for this later, we

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actually provide some resources, and those resources are from major, um, paint manufacturing companies that publish online or in paper. Um, information about the appropriateness of colors for the era in which a building

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or a downtown um, you know, was built. um without knowing what you know one building in historic um in Pmpton Lakes may have you know significance from 1920 and another might be from 1940 and so

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there is a a difference there as to what would be appropriate in that building and we're going to direct the um property owners or the developers a a new building would be a different story there's not historic significance but property owners to really consult with

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the burrow the SID and these guides to help them understand what would be appropriate. Having said that, because the materials as encouraged or required by this guide are going to be natural

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materials like brick, um, stone, there shouldn't be a whole lot of opportunity for crazy colors that we've that we're not expecting. Um, but you know, in the event that somebody wants to paint the brick, this guy would

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direct them as to what might be appropriate. >> So, this is an option what you were just talking about just to kind of steer the developers or people that are building when they come in that we're not looking for a pink building in the middle of a historic downtown that we have. So, we want to work with the colors that this

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group has come up with. And and it's not we're saying it has to be this color. There's shades and like she said, there's many different shades within the colors that we think look will look good downtown. Yeah. But we know like a bright pink or a bright orange probably would not look good downtown. So that's why the standard was put in place so we

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can kind of steer people the right way that the group wanted it to go. >> That's right. Um so next we talk about the architectural elements. Um, one thing that I know has come up recently, um, before the redevelopment agency, for

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example, is the treatment of corner buildings. And those should really be the most important or the, uh, the most eye-catching buildings in a downtown where we have these intersections and corners. And you want to they serve as anchor buildings. Um, they typically had more ornate architecture. In some cases,

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they may have been taller. Um, so we're looking for um developers of new buildings to um take that approach and give corner um buildings a special treatment. Um, make sure that there's lots of windows so that there's um interplay between what's going on in a

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store and what's going on in the sidewalk. Um, that's shown to activate downtowns. Um, and along the same lines, we have some guidelines for windows and entries. um making sure that the windows um are

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big um that the um you know the windows are not blocked with the storage of materials. Uh we regulate the glazing that you know at the ground level it be 75% of the storefront and above that residential um more like 25%.

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Um and we um ask that doorways be recessed. That is a traditional downtown um style where you might have display windows um right up against the sidewalk, but then a inset area where

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the door would be. It's not deep. It's like maybe two or three feet sometimes, some sometimes more, but it really protects the um sidewalk from the swing of the door so people walking around aren't getting hit by the door. But it also really um helps show off those

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windows as a real um you know eye-catching element in the downtown. Um next slide please. We put in regulations related to the signs um which mirror the regulations

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that already exist. um did not reinvent any wheels here, but we wrote um we included graphics and um dimensional regulations for wall signs, projecting signs, window signs, and

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ground signs. um all with this I think really nice imagery that helps people um have a visual um you know they they can visually see what kind of sign we're talking about even if they don't know the the terminology.

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Um similarly we've um regulated awnings um you know how long they can be what kind of how much lettering can be on them. Um identification signs um oh this is this is actually a new one. An

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identification sign is basically a wall-mounted or free freestanding sign that would be permitted to identify a building name including for multif family residential uses. So, if this is the

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Sarah building, let's say, um, first name that was sitting right in front of me, um, there could be a sign that says like this is the Sarah building established in 2026. Um, but that sign is going to be um, more

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it's going to be smaller. It's not an advertising sign the way that you would have a sign that says like Sarah's Pizza would be a bigger sign. Right? This is um it's meant to give identity to buildings without serving as an

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advertisement. Okay. Um there's also an allowance for second floor business signs which can only be window signs. That's an already existing regulation. Um flags with commercial advertising are prohibited and no flag poles in

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sidewalks. We don't want to disrupt or interfere with passage along the right of way. Um and lighting. There's language that um requires dark sky compliant lighting. Lights be pointed

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down. Um we don't want to have a lot of it's called light trans trespass when the lighting of one building is suddenly you know illuminating a much larger area than is necessary. And for signage, we have some pictures here of goose neck

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goose neck lamps, which are um you know, a style that the group um saw was favorable and thought was a um a nice way to illuminate the

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wall-mounted signs in the downtown. And >> I can just go, we have a building going up right now in the middle of downtown that does have flag polls. Um and and this is why we discussed this a little bit about what could be on those flag poles. We don't want four leaves flying in the wind. Uh you know there. So we

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what we've decided is it can be a a federal flag, a state flag, a town flag, the name of the building, and that's really all that can go on those flags. >> Yeah. And actually what it says is, and please correct me if I did not understand the directive accurately, it

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can't be commercial advertising or business signage. So non-advertising would also include things like um holiday holiday flag would be okay. Um you know if if you're celebrating

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fill-in-theblank month of any you know cultural or social whatever that could be there it's just not an advertisement. >> Correct. >> Okay. Um also okay balconies. So, it was decided that the front of buildings

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facing the street could have Juliet balconies, which are limited to a 12-in um projection. So, it's really not a like hang out on the balcony type of place, but it does allow those units to have French doors or whatever and the

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look of a balcony and um enjoy the air that may come with it without the risk of having um either um an unsightly clutter along the street front or too

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much um the potential for behavior that wasn't desired along the street Real balconies, balconies with depth um are permitted on the rears of buildings um or you know internal sides of buildings where there would be less of

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an impact along um to the public um in terms of the visual um of those balconies. Roof decks are um permitted. We did require a setback from the roof edge for the same reasons that we've regulated

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the balconies and we've limited that to 50% of a of a roof's usable area which should you know h provide the residents of a building with a decent amount of outdoor space on an otherwise you know

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downtown lots typically don't have a yard so this should give them a nice amount of outdoor space without um becoming problematic structured parking. The regulations here um work to ensure that any structured

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parking does not look like obvious structured parking from the street. Um you're going to see um a requirement for well first of all the ground floor. the structured parking, you're obviously going to need an entry from the ground floor, but that should go deeper into

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the building and then the rest the the street side portion of there needs to still be lined with um a non-residential active use. Um and even on upper levels of that garage there needs to be um

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proportion materials and massing that you know is reflective of what a residential or what a real use in that building would be. So you're not just going to see ramps um from the street. You're going to see some sort of

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treatment that yeah you you probably might know that it's a garage, but it's not going to be glaring and in your face. It's going to have quality treatment and proportions. >> So, my attorney just reminded me, I'm sure it's in our ordinances, but we would of course want no profanity on any

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of the flags or signage that was put up. You know, if they're starting to make a statement. >> Yeah. >> So, is that I'm sure that's in our B in our >> I am just about certain that that is in your code somewhere. >> It's got to be, but I don't know. Just we got to make sure that >> if if we we can check. Yeah.

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>> Um Okay. So, we've also have some sections in here about landscaping buffers and trees. Um, I'll note that for the tree section, I did talk to your shade tree commission um and your forester to get

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their input. I didn't want to contradict their expertise on the matters. Um, so they gave me some good points of reference that I've incorporated into the document. Um, of course in um, you know, in the downtown it's not there's

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not a whole lot of yard space, but we've included language that clearly states that all portions of the property not used for buildings, so on and so forth, should um, should be landscaped with buffers around the perimeter. Um,

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a street tree um, along the right of way every 30 ft um, as is appropriate on a siteby-sight basis. plaza and courtyards. We um certainly encourage we understand that not every lot is going to be conducive to that. Um

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you need a really big project in order to make that happen. Um, and just as an uh on a related note, I made it clear to the group as we were talking a lot of this through, and I'll make it clear to the um audience this

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evening, that if we have a very big project, a project that's so big that a courtyard is is a viable concept, there will be a redevelopment plan written for that property. And we will get into the very nitty-gritty of it at that point.

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um where we get into much more precise requirements than this guide even offers. This guide is meant to apply as you saw at the map at the beginning to many many properties. And if we're at the point that a major project is coming

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in that needs its own um special attention, this will be pulled into that plus more because that's how redevelopment plan works. So things like plazas and courtyards within this guide

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are kind of high-level um deta I don't I I I'm reluctant to even say details they're they're highlevel wishlist items so that a property owner or developer can get a

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sense of what we want and that will be fine-tuned you know if and when the opportunity presents for such uh such an improvement. Okay. >> And that being said, I would think that the redevelopment agency and planning board would always push if there was

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possibility to have courtyards for sure to ask for >> but if you have like a 25 by 100 building, it's not going to happen. >> Um same with streetscape and street furniture. Uh we, you know, we talk about um materials and um making sure

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there's sufficient space for pedestrians to get by and um and so on. It's really, this is really something that comes into play when you have a project that occupies a full block or the better part of a block. Um, so we really touch on

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that here. Um, without going into the nitty-gritty. Um, the next page, so this is the color resources that I mentioned earlier in my presentation. Um this is a pa this is just a full page from the document at the end of the document where we we

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refer um people who may be looking to build something to paint something improve their building um to three resources that that could steer them in the right direction. I should point out that um if somebody is just going to paint

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their building, there's not a whole lot of um arm twisting, well regulation that we can impose upon them. The catch is is that um the SID has grant programs and so on

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and so forth that a lot of property owners would want to take advantage of. And so if they want to, you know, get their bite at the apple of funding, then this is a way to twist the arms and say, "We have this funding available, but we really need you to honor our wishes with

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the color um of your buildings and things like that in order to to to enjoy that funding." So, it's really um the SID and the burrow working together to encourage property owners to do this and

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and give them incentives to do so. >> And just for the public who's watching at home, I know she's saying SID, the SID is is our bid. It's the same. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Yeah, that's okay. But the public hears that as the bid. So, >> yeah, the bid. Um, and to that end, the

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final slide. is ex the bid and um the building department. If people have questions, if they have contacts, people at both of these um you know, email addresses and phone numbers are were part of this

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process and um hopefully into perpetuity their uh predecessors will be as well and will be able to help um guide um any property owners, business owners um in the downtown. Um and of course this

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document will be available should should you um adopt this document it would be made available online and paper copies can be distributed um to anybody who who is um in any of the um applicable districts. >> All right. So what I think I'm going to

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do thank you for that presentation. It was quite condensed from the time and energy she put into >> we had many meetings many so it was well done condensed. Thank you for doing that. Before we ask any questions I do have some people in the audience. that might want to add to it just because they're representatives. I have Abby Novak who's our redevelopment

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chairperson if you want to come up and say a couple words and who was also part of the group that made these talks. >> Uh thanks Mike. I I didn't prepare anything formally but um thank you Kristen for helping us uh put together a well organized design standard. Um I

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hope that you will support our efforts here um as a council. Um, I've been on the redevelopment agency for since conception, currently the uh chairperson of it. And I think it will help us immensely to be able to look at a a

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project and um have like some of the simple questions of aesthetics um addressed right away. And when you when you get a a large project like some of the ones that you see up up um in town now, it's overwhelming process. and to

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have the design standards already communicated to the developer, it really takes um it it kind of sets the tone for what we're looking for and we don't have to start from square one. We don't have to reinvent the wheel each time we have a developer come up. So, it's um

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something that I look forward to using with um in the future and I think it will make a nice presentation when we see it start to to really happen. and we'll see a con um concise cohesive uh

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design um shining through with the new development and it will have a nice um I think aesthetic pumpkin. So I hope you support it. Thank you. >> Thank you. And I and I agree with what you're saying. You know, we wanted when we first started, we didn't look at the process as a whole. We looked at it as

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one individual building at a time. This gives us a future plan as we move forward to to kind of guide our our developers and how we'd like to see it. I also have Glenn Dominic here. He's our redevelopment chair, I mean our redevelopment uh director. You want anything you want to add to it? >> No, I think the chairman sums it up well, man. About consistency and being

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able to apply the state guidelines and think uh this is long overdue. So, I commend Kristen and everyone follow. >> All right. So, what I'm going to do is first I'll explain to the council what we're going to do. This was just a presentation. If we're all in a uh straw

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pole kind of idea that we like this idea and we want to move forward, we'll have a official vote probably in August. Is that when we're gonna Okay. >> Yeah. If I may uh add, mayor, uh so as part of this process, uh our burrow zoning map had to be uh uh rewritten and

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we do have several zoning and other code amendments that uh Miss Russell will address uh as part of the process. >> All right, but I'm going to give you let the council ask any questions first to you. Stay there. Stay there. Anybody have any concerns, questions they want to mention or talk about? No.

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>> No. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Now, >> yeah, I'll just I'll just touch on what u Mr. Carly just mentioned um kind of as a a second um prong to to this assignment was that um

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a as you may have heard come up um periodically your existing um downtown redevelopment areas as of now are embedded in your zoning code. It's legal. It's fine. It's hard to use. Um it's there's a lot of

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cross references and most towns have their redevelopment plan as a standalone document like you know here's a packet this is the redevelopment plan we hand it out to the redevelopers in town and um

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so what I've done is that I have extracted the downtown redevelopment area language from your zoning code so it will be its own standalone document that is um I

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would argue significantly more user friendly. Um in so doing I did not change any of the regulations in it. Um I did do there's reumbering there is the

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DRRA 1 and two now as of now you have DRA 1 DRA 2 and then a whole bunch of other things that says oh except lot one is this and oh except lot 15 is that what I've done is I re reumbered it so that it's DRA I think it

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goes up to six or seven now um so it's just called the DRA zone and then there's all these subdists 1 through six and as other ones become they will be numbered in the next consecutive order. Um I want to assure

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you that um there has been no change to the standards the use standards the bulk standards the requirements in any way even though the document looks different. Um, I have also had there have other

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sections of the zoning code may also make cross reference to DRA 1 and two. So, I've gone in and I've found those locations and edited that out so it doesn't make it uh what will I what I assume will be an outdated cross reference. Um, so there is a zoning code

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amendment but it's really administrative. And the third part of that is we have updated your zoning map to take out the DRA 1 and two and just have a DRRA. And then within the redevelopment

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document itself, you'll have a subdist map that has all of these one through infinity um subdists. Um I have not prepared um a presentation on

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that because honestly it is no change to the content. It's a change to the format. Um those along with the design guide that I did present to you um should be go through first and second

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reading as you always do. But there should also be um you should ask the planning board for um comment. Um >> we we'll go back to the planning board. Correct. >> Yep. Yep. Um go to planning board before you have second reading. And we can do

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them all at once. Um unless unless you have reason not to. It might be most efficient to do them all at once. But but the design guide is not dependent on those other documents to move forward. those other three documents are

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dependent on one another. >> So I can tell you that when developers came and one of the concerns they always had was we we had overlays and and and everything in our other zones and it was very hard to figure out. They were reading in a different an older old overlay and then we got the wrong

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information. So this is why it's all condensed into one now where they can get the one piece of paper or whatever it is and explain exactly what we have. It was well overdue. We should have done this a while ago because it was very confusing to try to figure out. But I I think the most important thing and she mentioned it already. We are not

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changing any of our bulk standards in anything we do. So we didn't increase heights or setbacks or any of those things. None none of those things changed. And if they need to change those things, those are they're going to go for a variance and through the redevelopment and through planning board ask for those things. Right? So I just

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want to understand this is a conceptual plan for what we just talked about but not setbacks and heights and widths and things like that. >> Right. Okay. Any questions on that? >> No. Okay. So, Mike, what just explain what we're going to do? >> Right. So, at the August council

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meeting, we'll have an introduction for the land use/zoning amendments that are required. Uh there is also an ordinance on lighting that we will be presenting. >> You want Okay. >> Um that we'll move forward with it in accordance with the the uh design

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standards and we will have a resolution adopting the design standards document at the next meeting as well. Uh, so we'll work with the burough attorney on that and with Miss Russell and move that forward. >> Does anybody have any issues with anything that was said so far? No. Okay. I thank you guys for your time for

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coming down and helping us. Thanks for all the time you put in. You know, again, I I just have to remind everybody our planning board and our redevelopment agency, they spend a lot of time, a lot of energy. They are not paid positions. I know people think they are. They are not. And they spent a lot of time in doing that. So, I thank everybody on

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those boards. Thank you. Okay, let's move forward. Thanks, guys. Okay. Can I have a motion to open the meeting for public comments? >> Motion. >> Councilman Bennett. >> Second. >> Councilman Bay. All in favor? >> Anyone from the Anyone from the public

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like to address? >> Please step up. >> Good evening. Randy Pratt, 322 Avenue. I own Ry's Homemade Ice Cream. Okay. what I've heard this evening is sounds fantastic

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and I hope it comes to fruition because I get a vision of um Charleston, South Carolina or Savannah, Georgia kind of thing. So I really hope that this is not a false positive that I heard tonight. The main purpose of why I'm here tonight

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is what's happening in front of my ice cream shop on Wanq Avenue. I'm noticing way too many incidents with cars speeding up and down Wanq Avenue. That's the first thing. And I have

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senior citizens who come into my shop. I have families who come into my shop with small children. And I've seen too many near misses. Now, myself, when I go to my shop to drop off supplies that I need

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for the day or for the week and I try to parallel park into a parking spot, people are right on my tail and they give me and others zero room to parallel park and then they get upset and they go

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front. And I'm a good parallel parker. I'm going to admit that. Okay, I can do it on my first try. Okay. So, when you're trying to power a park, they go across the double yellow line and go flying by you. Okay. So, that's been

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addressed in the past. My next point is this parking. I used to live in Pton Lakes in the 1980s from 80 to uh 87 and parking has always been a concern. Two years ago, I met with Michael over here

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because I had a problem with the parking meters in front along W Avenue. I met with your new police chief back in late February, early March. I've written emails to him as well as CC Michael on

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that um in which I received a response back saying I need to speak with the bid. The bid has and the chamber of commerce has no control. Yeah. >> And has no authority to implement any

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kind of a uh fine for people who are not paying the parking meters. When I brought this up to the chief, he had indicated to me he did not know the ruling when it comes to handicap parking. Very quickly, I'll give you some statistics here is that you have 15

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parking spots in front of my shop. Okay? And the parking meter zone would be 40502. That would be those from the bus stop down going towards Hamburg turnpike on the other side of the street which would

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be along where the library is. Uh that's zone 40503. There's only 11 spots in front of my shop. In that first zone that I mentioned, there are literally eight cars. eight

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that take up 15 parking spots. That's customers that can be using it to come into my shop and make it easier for them and also safer for them if they were had access to those spots that weren't taken up by cars that were

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there all day long. There are numerous cars with parking uh I'm sorry, with uh handicap tags on them. And I went through your zone uh I'm sorry, with your code book and in your code book it's uh chapter 7

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subsection 43. It mentions absolutely nothing about handicap parking not having to pay the meter. It mentions absolutely nothing about people overstaying

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3 hours, which is your minimum where your maximum amount of time on Wanq Avenue. But yet, there are people who feed that meter all day long. I'm now a business owner in Pmpton Lakes. I love Pompton Lakes. If you listen to my phone

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message at the shop, I said, "Hey, beautiful Pompton Lakes." I truly believe Pmpton, beautiful Pompton Lakes and I hope this lady and what the council and and everybody else is doing is going to make it even more beautiful. However, parking is a problem in the

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town and uh I don't know who is responsible. I don't know what the history has been regarding a parking meter made, but I can tell you that there was a correct me if I'm wrong, Michael, business administrator, that I

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saw something on your website maybe a month or two ago that you're $10,000 in a rears in parking meter. Now, >> just so you know, because I know it's the first time I'll answer you at the end. So, there's no back and forth. I don't want you. >> Okay. So, whether it's true or not, this

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is what I had read. So, so my my uh comment to that would be if tickets were being given out and then maybe people would be putting money into the meter. 25 cents, mayor, that's a bargain for an hour, 75 cents for 3 hours, that's an

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absolute bargain. You go to other towns, it's a dollar for 45 minutes. Okay. So, I just think that the parking situation needs to be addressed and the speeding aspects along Wanukq a before it becomes

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a a catastrophic situation needs to be addressed. Okay. So, I thank you for your time. I appreciate it. >> Thank you. And I'll answer you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else from the public lecturers? >> Mr. P. >> Good evening. Thanks everyone. Um, I actually came here for the same reason

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as Randy to >> Did you get your name and address? >> Oh, yeah. Charlene Sturone, 54 Hill Court, Compton Lakes. Uh, I came for the same reason as Randy. There's a lot of overlap. Um, my concern is crossing the street from West onto West Lennox coming

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up. So, I live right near Mike and we my daughter is 12 and now she's getting older. She wants to go out with her friends. They want to go on their own without mom and dad. They go up, they cross over the foot bridge, they walk up the hill to Max and then they cross the

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street there. They generally like to go to the Lennox playground. Um, I have seen so many times when I've been there and also she has told me there have been many near misses to the point where I'm honestly very concerned. I I don't want to hold up a 12-year-old from hanging

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out with her friends, but I just have a true concern about the safety of her and other kids. Um there's reckless driving, there's speeding. I think there's a solution that we can all work towards, whether it's implementing a speed bump there or just having more oversight. Um

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it's during the summer there's no crossing guard, but even during the school year, if my daughter or other kids have something before or after school when the crossing guard's not there, we're facing the same issue. So, I'm hoping something can be done. That's one. My second question is kind of

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related. Um I know there was there were I think there was announcement that there were plans to work on that bridge, the foot bridge um behind Max. From what I had heard before, I thought the timeline was supposed to be over the summer, but since nothing has started, I

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wanted to see if there's an updated timeline and if any anything is happening, if that would if that bridge will be usable for the school year. >> Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else from the public like to address? >> Seeing no one can have a motion to close public session.

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>> Motion. >> Councilman Bennett. Councilman Santers. All in favor? >> Okay. First of all, I'm I'm going to agree with both of you and I'm going to answer you both at the same time if you don't mind. Um, we understand when there's a situation in Wanik with with speeding cars and and just what you said, you know, getting right on your

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ass when, excuse me, my language and trying to pull out uh, you know, when you're trying to get out of a spot, it makes it very difficult. But the other part that I think both you are missing is it's a county road. We don't have responsibility for that road. How that road is laid out, what kind of spots are

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there, what, what sizes they are is all from the county. Now, that being said, we can ask the county for certain things to try to make that work better. Um, I will definitely talk to our I wish my police chief is usually here every meeting. He had to go somewhere. He'll be back in another 15 20 minutes. He will definitely watch this and get the

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message. We will put patrols out there for by the station and by by the crossing, which I know is very dangerous over there. But, you know, we can only do that when they're there. The part about the parking and the and the meters. First of all, we've discussed increasing the cost to park in the

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meters. Our meters still take a nickel. Show me another town whose meters take a nickel. Okay? So, we we do have to increase those costs. Um the problem is a couple years ago there was a law passed from the state that says we're not allowed to chalk tires, which is how

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we used to keep track of cars how long they were there. It's and and maybe the attorney can help me with this. The there is now you're not allowed to do that. So then it becomes an issue of how do you know how long the car was sitting there. Now we have just added cameras downtown in most places. I don't know

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and Mike maybe we can figure this out if that's something we can use to our advantage for how long cars are parking because it is an issue and it's people who go to the city, they park their cars there, they go for eight hours and then they come back. Maybe they get a ticket, maybe they don't. Uh but at the end of the day they don't really care about it and it's been an ongoing issue downtown

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for for many many years. It's not an easy thing to fix. Um, and we will look into solutions, I think, till we can try to work with that. I, you know, I'm a big supporter of the downtown. I'm a big supporter of the of the mom and pop shops we have downtown. I don't want to see them go. And the availability of

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parking is the key part of that whole thing. I know everybody has parking in the back, but when you're going to get an ice cream, you don't want to have to park in the back. You want to park close to the store and walk and do that. So, if we can stop that in any way and getting those cars out of there, I will definitely and Mike maybe we'll work

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have a meeting with the chief and and and our council president to discuss the best way to handle that. Um, at on the same time, and I know you know where I live and they I live by the bridge, uh, you know, and my kids used to walk up there. We we've looked at a

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flashing light. We've asked the county to put a flashing light there. Um, I think it would help, but it doesn't always fix the problem because there's so many flashing lights now around towns that people just kind of ignore them. Really, it's enforcement and ticketing is the is the key to the whole thing.

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And we've done numerous times um uh sting operations where when somebody is standing on the red box in the cross zone and a car doesn't stop, they're going to get a ticket for that. Once you're in that box, that's why those red boxes are there on the ends. That's

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meaning you're crossing the crosswalk and the car does have to stop by law. So, I can ask the chief to redo those again and and put them out. But at the end at the end of the day, unfortunately, and that's what makes Palton Lake so special, that connection area right there is the connection between north and south, right? So,

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there's a lot of traffic going through there. There's trucks going through there. There's people not obeying our laws. They're not from town and they're speeding down there. We see it all the time. I have people making U-turns right in the middle of the highway there sometimes. you know, all dangerous stuff, especially just like you said, a 10-year-old, 12-y old kid wants to walk up there, get some ice cream, do

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something, they should be able to be safe to walk up there when they do that. I I have no issues with that. Um, so we will I will speak to my chief to see the best way we can handle that. We at one point, and maybe Councilman Dennon, you remember, didn't we talk about the the stepping on the pad and the light going on that? I don't know what happened to

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that idea, but maybe the county said no. I don't know. But um there there do make some of these lights that when you step into that red box area the light starts flashing. Um that to me would seem like a good suggestion and we can go back and try to see if the county will be willing to do that. We can't just put it up

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because it is a county road so we can't just do that. Speaking of the bridge, the first bridge was done at Hurstfield Park. That is finished and complete. The second bridge will probably be done next summer. They're ordering it now. Uh and it's a big situation again because I live in that neighborhood. My kids went

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there. the uh you know closing down that bridge for five months is going to become an issue because there's a lot of kids crossing there to go to school and the only way around that is to walk all the way around. So we've made the county well aware that they're going to have to figure that out and and you know we've talked about maybe a temporary bridge or

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even a bus that goes around but if they're going to do it during school hours and school time they're going to have to figure that out. And going back to the parking um I have to ask my chief you because you bring up a point. I've never heard that a handicap sticker means you don't put money into a meter. Does anybody know

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that? >> I've never heard that. Is that Is that true? >> That means you don't put money in a meter. >> You have to put it in initially and then >> Yeah, but people just generally don't. >> But I'm saying, is that a law that says you don't have to >> Yeah. Yeah. They're afforded additional time. It's It's something in title 39.

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They can't tell you what the quote is, >> but but they still have to put money in the meter to pay. >> They're supposed They're supposed to. Yes. >> Okay. Well, we'll have to check on that because that's a big deal to me, too, because everybody's got a handicap sticker nowadays. And if they're going to be able to park their car there for 5 hours, then that's a problem.

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>> Yeah, but you may not that may be a problem you can't do anything about. >> And that again, that gets over my head. It gets to the county, it gets to the state, they come up with their own wacky rules up there. They don't make common sense half the time when they're talking things. And and I'm going to tell you this, and I've been doing this for a while. You know, sometimes they're not very businessfriendly, especially when

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it comes to small towns. You know, we know how important our downtowns are and our businesses are downtown. Sometimes the county and the county has been doing better. They've hired some better people there that are working, but I can tell you the state doesn't really care about our downtown. They want they worry about their highways. That's what they worry

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about. So, that's something else we'll look into. Um, I usually don't do this, but I'll allow you to ask a question because I know you just raise your hand. Go ahead. >> I I do on something that you mentioned. Um, two points. You mentioned that you have cameras and I've seen the cameras around time around town. The chief did

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indicate to me that there's an officer, and I don't know if it's just one officer or multiple a multitude of officers that have an iPad with them that says that it will indicate if they're using the electronic payment system, it will show up on the iPad that

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the time has expired. >> I don't know. >> Mike, is that true or not? >> All right. So, that that my we just put those in. So, I should that Thank you for bringing that up. We are going to look at replacing all our metered uh units. compliment you in in the BA

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because I I think those meters are awful and I think the signage is awful. Uh and I think that could be done. >> So that's something we we are looking into and really the real reason we're doing it is they're so old that we can't get replacement parts for them. So it becomes an issue. So we are going to

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probably go to the full uh thing. But saying that there are there is a population in the community that likes putting in their dime and two nickels to pay for their half hour parking. So, uh, you know, we we have to incorporate that, too. But I will, that's a good point, and I will ask my chief about that. Um, and I'm going to ask Michael

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to maybe you could follow up after we have the meeting with the chief to see with you, just figure out where we what we talked about. >> I'm happy to sit in with yourself, my anybody. You know where I am. Just come and see. I'll be happy to discuss all my thoughts on this because in my email of

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March 28th, I did even put uh in that email a listing of alternative ideas. >> Yeah, sorry. I was on that >> might be useful >> and and do you have any other questions while while I got Okay. All right. So, thank you guys for coming. Thank you. >> Oh, mayor. >> Yes. Go ahead, >> Mayor.

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You you said that trunk and the tires we can't do, but do we number the spaces and like the officer walking by can see this car been parked in this space 3 hours, you know, and you know and then

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you know the space is numbered and this this way they have log of it. We do that something. I'd have to look into it, but when they changed the laws with the marking of the tires, it was a whole thing that we're not supposed to be keeping identification of a car on how long they're in a spot. I don't know why

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they made came up with that reason, but that's what the state came up with. I don't know where what you're saying falls into it. Uh I can find that out. I'll get the answer to that. But I think our our best route is the two ways is by using the pads because we can actually see the time the car paid the first meter and by using our cameras. Now, the

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just for the public's concerned, we just put in new cameras everywhere downtown in the last year. So, we're still getting used to using that system, and we're going to use it for everything from from downtown uh problems with storefronts to graffiti to illegal parking. So, we're growing with that

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right now. And um but that's something we'll talk about, I guess, with the chief, Mike, when we have a chance. >> All right. That Thank you. Um motion to approve the following minutes. Regular meeting minutes June 24th. Close session meeting June 24th. >> Motion.

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>> Councilman Bay. >> Second. >> Council President Kent. All in favor? >> I may. >> President. >> Oh, I got a present there. Maria, I mean please. >> Okay. Got that. Uh, bills and claims authorizing payment of bills as listed

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below. Have a motion. Motion. Councilman Bennett. >> Second. >> Councilman Santers. All in favor? >> I. >> Consent agenda. Anybody need anything removed? >> No. Okay. Liz, >> where is the mayor and burough council

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of bur council that we do the consent cons of various proposed resolutions? Whereas the mayor burough council of the burough council does not desire to move resolutions for individual action from that agenda. Now therefore be it resolved that the following resolutions

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on the consent agenda are hereby approved. Resolution 26 294 approved. >> I have a motion. >> Motion. >> Council President Kent. >> Councilman Santers. All in favor? >> I against.

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>> Ordinances. >> Ordinance for first reading. Ordinance 26.4. An ordinance amending and supplementing the salary ranges of the employees of the burrow of Lake County to save the state of New Jersey. Motion

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to approve ordinance 26-24 for introduction. >> Motion. >> Councilman Bennett. >> Second. >> Council President Kent. Roll call, please. >> Council President. >> Yes. >> Councilman Sanders. >> Scott.

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>> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Councilman Bennett. >> Yes. >> Councilman B. >> Yes. >> Second meeting. Final adoption ordinance 2622 an ordinance amending chapter 11 of the

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revised general ordinances of the burrow of Compton Lakes to add a section regarding the Burough Compton Lakes civic centers civic community center. >> So this is just in reference to we're going to start renting out our civic center and we put uh a contract kind of

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in place and this is just a f follow up on that. Mike, do you want to add anything? >> I'll in my report. >> Oh, your report. Okay. Motion to open the meeting for public comments on ordinance 26-22. >> Motion. >> Councilman Bennon, Councilman Santers. All in favor? >> I. >> Against. Anyone like to address just this ordinance?

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>> Seeing no one, motion to close the public section on ordinance 26-22. >> Motion. >> Councilman Denon, Councilman B. All in favor? >> I. >> Motion. Motion to approve ordinance 26-22 for final adoption. >> Motion.

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>> Council President Kent. Second. >> Councilman Santers. Roll call, please. >> Council President. >> Yes. >> Councilman. >> Scott. >> Yes. >> Councilman D. >> Yes. >> Councilman B.

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>> Yes. >> Ordinance 2623. An ordinance amendment supplementing the salary range of the employees of the burough context of the county said in the state of New Jersey. >> Why is this one on second reading? Is it different

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than this? >> Can is different? >> No, it's it's the same thing, but it's different. >> Different. >> Motion to open the meeting for public comments on ordinance dash 26-23. So move. >> Council President Kent. >> Second. Councilman Bennett. All in favor?

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>> Anyone like to address justice ordinance 26-23? Seeing no one. Motion to close the public session on ordinance 26-23. >> Motion. >> Councilman Bennett. >> Second. Council President Kent. All in favor? >> I. >> I.

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>> Motion to approve ordinance 26-23 for final adoption. >> Motion. >> Motion. >> Councilman Bennon. Councilman Santers. Roll call, please. >> Council President. >> Yes. >> Councilman Sant. >> Yes. >> Councilman Bennett. >> Yes. >> Councilman J.

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>> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Under my report, I'll start with some good news. Um, we had a meeting with uh the builders of the Meridian building. Uh they are threequarters approved with their apartments inside. Uh they do have a restaurant coming in. They they told me

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who it is. It is an upscale type of diner that that'll serve breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Um and they're they're going to start leasing out probably in the end of August and start to move people in probably in the middle of September. So they've gotten some temporary cos which you need to move in.

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They haven't gotten them on all the apartments. So, they've got about 160 apartments ready to go and they're ready and and they've gotten a lot of calls. People are interested in moving in. They've been calling for the last month saying, "When when can I get they want to be the first ones to move in." I don't know why, but that's what they want to do. So, that's that's all good

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stuff. It's all good stuff for our tax base. It's all good stuff for our downtown businesses. This is why we spent so much. And let me just tell you, I've started this project along with some other people over 10 years ago. And to see it finally coming in is a big deal for me. I mean, I had a fight and

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and we we we had to learn as we went, but this is a nice project. And I know some people might be unhappy with the look of the building, but at the end of the day, it what it brings in what we call walking wallets. These are people that come in who want to shop in town, they want to eat in town, they want to go to a bar in town, they want to do all

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these things and live in the town. Um, so when we first put this together, two of the reasons we put it together, we were hearing from seniors, especially in the South End, that have been here 50 years. They love this town. they want to stay here, but maybe the flooding has gotten to them a little bit and they they want they want to get out and they

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don't want to have to worry about their yards anymore and everything else. So, we were hoping those seniors would move into these apartments. The other group we were looking at are the young adults, 25 to 30 year olds. They're looking for their first homes. They love the town. They want to get their foot in the door,

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start with an apartment, save some money, and maybe buy a home. So, we're looking to have those people move in. This is what keeps the family, in my opinion, this is what keeps our town thriving, right? Young families coming in, bringing in new ideas and new people coming in. So, this is something that I

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think will work out well. I can tell you the first building that we built, which is Lakeside Commons, which um that was the first one was only 62 units, that got rented out completely in 6 months. It was it was rented out. Uh so, I I I foresee good things here. Uh the

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developer is not somebody who's new at this. He's built many many buildings in the state of New Jersey over many years over this. Um he also helped us with if you and I'm sure the administrator will talk about our new civic center that was all donated by this builder. The whole revamping of that whole building was all

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done at no tax dollars. It was done by the uh developer himself. So I'm excited to see that happen and that's all good news. You know I was going to hold their foot to the fire a little bit if we didn't have a restaurant. Right now restaurants are a little tough with with the costs. Uh but I'm glad to see that they have somebody coming in and that's good to see.

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Uh, I had a couple meetings with our building department over numerous complaints that we've had from residents. I'm just going to remind residents in general, you cannot run a business out of your home. Okay? So, you know, you can't run any kind of business, a landscaping business, a

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rental company, a business, that's just not allowed. And especially if neighbors start complaining, you will be called out and be fined for that. And it's not a cheap find. So, keep that in mind that there's processes in place if you want to have a business. Um and and it's it has to be zoned for a business. Uh I had

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the the priv privilege which I always love of going to summer camp and talking to the kids. Um and you know talking to kindergarteners about what we do here is a little challenging at best. I can tell you that. Um but they you know all the camp counselors were great and a lot of

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the kids were great. And you know to a lot of the kids and I forget cuz I've been here a long time. They don't know that where they have camp used to be a swimming hole and people used to come from all over like a beach and set up an umbrella and sit around the lake and they just are amazed by that when you tell them those kind of stories or or

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you tell them that George Washington slept in this house and in this house we actually that day it was very hot and we met in Lennox school you know explaining to them if you look carefully you'll see boys and girls on the school and back in the day this was the one school we had and the boys went in one side and the girls went in one on the other side and

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they kind of didn't meet in the middle And you know, we had high school kids there, we had middle school kids there, and we had elementary. They were all amazed by all those things. They had great questions. Um, and I I just love doing that. So, that's always fun to do. >> Uh, let's see what else I have. Uh, we had some issues at Carlo Field, and I

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got to thank the MUA for stepping in to help us fix some situations we have down there. Everything is up and running and ready to go. Willow Field has made it through its first real season um, and uh, without breaking anything, which is a good sign. Um, and now the grass can

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grow and the trees can grow. We got some time put aside and we can move forward. Uh, we've started the garbage pickup in Oakland. Um, you know, we expected some bumps in the road. Nothing crazy, but we've had some bumps in the road and everything's working fine. Um, I just have to re remind everybody, nothing of

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the garbage pickup for our Compton Lakes residents is changing. You have the same days, the same pickups, the same ways you've done your garbage for many years. The only advantage you're going to get probably at the end of August, beginning of September, we will now pick up your grass clippings from your house. So that

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is a big difference from what we used to do. And I will tell you one of the things when I ran 20 years ago was to get the grass lips picked up. I never got anywhere with that, but just by chance it worked out for for us to have the grass cookings picked up. So it is working. We've hired uh 10 new employees

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for the DPW that are working in Oakland and then working for us after the fact uh after they're done with their work in Oakland. More to come on that. Um, and now that the chief came back in just when you were out, there was a lot of conversation on two things which I either you could talk about now or in your report. Um, the speeding on Wiku

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Avenue and and at the crosswalks especially. So coming up from my side neighborhood when kids want to cross to go across the street and they're younger, you know, the cars are not stopping at that intersection. And then the um and you could explain this better, the marking or the explaining of

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how long a car has been sitting in a parking spot. Uh you know, there's a three-hour limit and how we're addressing that. >> Okay. >> So, you want to do that now or you want to do it in your report? >> Uh it's I can do it in a report. >> Okay. Okay. And uh that's my report. Uh council president.

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>> Thank you, Mayor. Um I want to first uh have my deepest condolences to the family of Frank Dalton. He's an icon of a public servant to this community for over 30 years. He was a fireman and a first aid responder and he was he will be missed by many many and his legacy

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will live on. I uh attended a ribbon cutting at Vizio's martial arts in off on Wanq Avenue. We had over 80 people attend including the students of the school and these big uh Chinese dragons. They were very interesting. Um and it

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was very exciting experience. They gave a wonderful demonstration uh and uh everybody really enjoyed it. So our downtown is really being uh used and we have new businesses coming in. So all of the items that were discussed here by our residents and shop owners

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and uh is very important to keep the businesses here. So I'm looking forward to hearing how that that's going to happen. Uh I also attended the open space meeting. Uh we met at Lakeside Avenue at the Muller property. um we call it a field trip and sometimes we

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need to do that instead of just meeting in an office and we took a look at what ne what was necessary to improve that property. That property was purchased by open space funds about I want to say 12 to 15 years ago and we haven't touched

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it. So now we're going to have an opportunity to uh make some improvements on that. We're going to we're looking at the road. We're looking at um new removing the fence. The open space members are very excited about doing that and I believe we're going to be

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getting grants uh with our administrator. We're going to be looking at grants with that. So, we're we're looking forward to finishing that part of the uh of the acquisition. That's also because it was acquired with open space funds. Uh it's 100% paid for

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out of open space. So, we're looking for county open space funding to match Um we also discussed at the meeting the Joe Grill Field, the Willow Sports Complex and the signs, the signage. Um the open space committee is looking to

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create a large complex sign with the field locations. Uh I think uh um Steve uh Councilman Steve Banks is going to be talking a little bit about that or >> I didn't put it in. Um I can talk about >> Okay. It's up to you, but I don't want

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to steer. Yeah. No, don't you you're not stealing. >> Okay. Um, >> steal away. Is that what you're said? >> But but there there be because because it's a because it's a that project was paid for under we paid for that through open space funds and the open space

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committee uh spent years on trying to get that property to do exactly what we've done and they're very proud of that. So now we're talking about signage. So, we will be talking to that with the burough administrator, the mayor, uh, Councilman Bean, and and myself. Okay.

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Um, we had a major discussion regarding tickets for tenants, landlords or store owners who continue to place garbage along Wanq Avenue without utilizing the proper garbage cans, storing their

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garbage in inappropriate time of day and hours. And we are going to be discussing that uh again with the property maintenance officials and the police officials. You know, there's a lot of Facebook pages. People love to pick, they love to put these pictures on

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Facebook, but uh honestly, we had a wonderful presentation by our chief last council meeting. He discussed all of the ways to handle this. He went through every ordinance that we have. He made good, really good suggestions. And so now we have to implement them to make

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the town exactly what we need to have. And thank you for that. And I thank you for coming and talking about that, Randy. Uh I Okay, so on a personal m note, I completed my security awareness training course, which is two hours of my time

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doing cyber security training, which we all need. So that's painful, but I it's done. >> Um if you didn't, you won't be able to use your computer. >> I got to check. >> I also want to thank Kristen Russell, the young lady who is our planner, and

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uh Mrs. Novak. She is the chairman of the redevelopment agency. This is a long time coming program. Uh we wanted this many many years ago, but it finally came to fruition and this plan um I was on many of those calls. I'm a part of that

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project. Um it's called the guidance design uh pro program with the mayor. And I want to tell you this is essential. We have to have this in order to have good future development. and it'll help the developers and it'll help

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our our town's people uh it'll give guidance to keep it in a nice historic way. Uh but at the same time develop what we need to have developed uh in an appropriate manner. So that's that's very important that we pass that. Uh,

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I'm also attempting to get the the uh the PLA members, the council members, and the Fleer family together in August for for a photo of the park benches that were placed in Hersfield Park in honor and memory of Rich Fleer. Hopefully,

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we'll have that in August. I was going to ask our attorney for the fourth month now what the governor's office and if they've actually responded to our letter that was sent to her regarding the

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DuPont $75 million uh payment to the to the state because I'm asking for at least 20 million to come back to the town people who were actually damaged to our residents and our taxes and I want some restitution

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for the injuries that happened here. And um Mark Samrero, our attorney, put together a letter. I think you've sent three out. And I want to know, has there been any response to the third one? No, >> no response at all. and and and as you recall uh the state prevented the towns

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from making the claim because the state pursued the claim themselves and then they kept the money and aren't allocating it to the affected towns which is really problematic. Well, the fact that they did that is apparent, but the fact that they don't even answer us.

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There's you. That letter represents 12,000 people. So, that one letter should be answered. And I'm going to and I don't I don't know what we're going to do. We have to send another letter. We need another phone phone call, but we have to have an answer to that. And uh I

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want to thank you for doing that. And um that is my report. >> Thank you. Thank you for reminding me of Frank Dalton. you know that he's a, you know, a typical Pompton Lakes person who spends his time and energy besides working all day, taking care of family and doing all those things, putting his hours in to the fire department, the

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volunteer um ambulance squad. You know, he will be surely missed. He was still going to to meetings and active calls up to, you know, a couple years ago. So, he condolences to the whole family. Uh, Councilman Bake. >> Uh, thank you, mayor. Um, I attended last month's historic meeting. Um, still

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in the process of organizing the 250th anniversary event. Uh we have another meeting coming up so I'm sure we'll kind of solidify that the next meeting. Um open space again we met at Lakeside Park. Um it was a really good meeting and everybody did seem to be pretty energized about just the future of the

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mall property and and improvements that could be made down there. Um hopefully a sidewalk getting put in from Jefferson down to Chandling Court. So um we did discuss the signs and I we'll have another meeting coming up about that as well. Um because that was a pretty big deal to the to the committee. So, um I

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also went to the trails uh committee. Um they met uh two Saturdays ago. Um it was a little bit of a light crew despite that work still got completed. Um the next trail maintenance is August 9th at 9:00. So, there's many people that can get out there. Um things are growing, especially with the the way the weather's been. So, I'm sure the trails

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are starting to get overgrown already. And then lastly, uh recreation wanted me to make a few announcements. So, the paddle boat and kayak rentals are available every weekend from 10:00 to 3 through Labor Day. Um, there's also cornhole and ping pong that you can use down there as well. Uh, pickle ball is happening every Monday and Wednesday

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nights from 6:00 to 8 at Hersfield Park. Uh, volleyball takes place on Monday nights from 6:00 to 8 at Hersfield Park. Uh, National Night Out is coming up on August 4th from 5:30 to 8:30 in the high school parking lot. Um, the fire department's hosting their 125th anniversary from 2:00 to 8 at the

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firehouse. And I got to reook what that date was. It was August 22nd, I think. >> Something like that. Um and then Pompton day is Sunday, September 6 from 11:00 to 5:00 on Lakeside A. Um starts with the 5K and the Fishing Derby in the morning.

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Um fireworks will end the night at 8:30 over the bridge. And then the last thing is senior breakfast is August 15th at the Elks. Um RSVP by calling 973839-4167. And that's my report. >> And thank you for reminding me. That's open to any seniors here in Pmpton

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Lakes. You don't have to be a member of a club or anything else. So, if you want to join the senior uh lunchon, it's inside. They have a band and they have free food and and stuff going on there. You're more than welcome to come down. I think you just called the number you had just said to give us a count, right? That's all we really need. >> Okay. Uh one thing I forgot my report,

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you know, with all these electrical problems we've been having in the last month. Uh I will be having a meeting with what they call the North Jersey mayors with the representatives from Jersey Central, the the uh the chairpeople to bring up concerns that we have in our towns. And you know, yes,

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we'll talk about lightning things, but one of the biggest concerns is the whole structure in the state is very old. So we had and a good example is we had one street where a transformer blew out three times and all it is is a switch to switch it to turn it back on, but they

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were so in inundated with power issues, they didn't turn that switch on for five days. That's not fair to the residents to be out of power for five days and all they have to do is is replace a switch that takes five minutes. So those are the kind of things that that Jersey Central for us because that's what we

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use here has to be more responsive to. I'm not asking them to rebuild, you know, seven poles that came down. I'm asking to send somebody replace a switch that's going to take 20 minutes and it's going to put I don't care if it's only 50 residents back with power. We have elderly there. We had people with newborn babies. It was a real situation

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at some points, you know, and they had no place to go. So, you know, I I am going to push hard with that. Um and and I can tell you there's been a lot of pressure from the other meetings they've had with southern mayors and mid mayors over the same situation. So hopefully something can get done. It has to come

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from the state. They're going to have to push very much harder to update our infrastructure with with with power because it's going to become an issue as we move forward. Um Councilman Santis, Scott, you have a report. >> Yeah, I do. Thank you, Mayor. Uh first

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thing is I attended the uh first uh concert on the lawn with the 3F band. It was well attended. It was packed house. Um Wendy's was there. They were handing out hamburgers, uh French fries, chicken nuggets, and

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iced tea to everybody. And they had plenty of food. Uh it was well, like I said, was well attended. also attended the ribbon cutting at uh Vizio's uh and same thing that was a nice presentation that they did. I attended the board of

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education meeting. So Dr. Dr. Marose's last board event meeting will be August um 13th uh I mean I'm sorry August 11th at 7:30 at the board office and as well as they approved the appointment of

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Denise VZ as superintendent of schools. She her tenure will start on September 1st um 2026. Uh they also passed um awarding the cont for new running track bleachers and

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press box at Hersfield. Um but the bid came in at 2,600,000 um dollars. Uh this will include new bleachers box. So the new bleachers for own team will not be on the same side.

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It will be on the visitor side. There will be no bleachers on the ite as of right now for um the track will be not a it will be not it will not be a lacy

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track it will just be the track which is there but they will surface it with uh uh what kind of surface it is they they didn't say what surface like a rubberized um a rubberized track which is uh

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wouldn't interfere with interfere with floods and uh let's see here. Oh, and then I attended the the MUA field their annual report for the body

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is out. You can get that full report on their website which is a https semicolonwa.org/c org/c customer information back slash so you can uh go

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>> I I got that one >> one more time quality report will be there also water meter here they're um a lot of the water meters are 20 years plus and they're there's batteries in

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them and the batteries are going to be they're going to start going bad or old and the water uh the water company will come around and install new ones, but they will contact the homeowner um to

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schedule a replacement date. Uh and they won't be on every house. It'll be only on that on the meter meters that aren't working. And they ask you every once in a while to check your meters, make sure they're not leaking and they're not

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cracked. This uh this uh will save in water cost. Uh assume responsibilities. Do not put um your grease down, grease or oils down your um sinks cuz this

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could uh clog your sewer lines. Uh which if your sewer lines are clogged, it's your responsibility. And most times the uh homeowners won't cover that. And then also water uh water conserves

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discolored smelly waters that's caused by min mineral settlements in pipes. Although it's it's displeasing there's no health risk. Rotten egg order is caused by pockets of hydrogen sulfates. Run your

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cold water for 5 to 10 minutes until the water runs clear. Cloudy water is caused by tougher bubbles or calcium in water. When left sitting, bubbles will rise to the surface and dispute calcium um

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carbonate. Um so just uh it's it's no problem. And then the hardness of the water refers to the concentration of non-toxic minerals, calcium, magnesium. It's characteristic.

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The ground water has no advice diverse effect on the health. According to the National Academy of Sciences, it may contribute to healthy diet. Um, and that is my report. >> Thank you. Yeah, they just came in,

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replaced my meter. It only took 5 minutes. They were in and out in 5 minutes. So, if they're asking you to replace your meter, I would let them in. That way, you don't take a chance. So, thank you. Um, Councilman Bennett. >> Thank you, Mayor. I want to start off by thank you thanking uh Miss Russell for the design guide presentation. As as mentioned previously, it's long overdue

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and will definitely keep um help our downtown maintain uh a certain look. Uh Lakeside Commons you mentioned before which was the where the Salvation Army building was previously was a old building with a huge parking

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lot and not very well maintained. The redevelopment agency before I became involved worked very hard to get it to look the way it does today, including matching Pumpkin Lakes High School and the post office in the design. It did not look like that initially,

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correct, if I remember correctly. So, it it's a beautiful building. Um, and I'm glad that it looks the way it does. >> Uh, the redevelopment agency uh met last week where we approved the Smith project. This is the building that goes uh along Kolfax between Wanq and

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Lakeside. Uh this project has been back and forth a few times with the redevelopment agency and started out higher. It's currently uh going to be a four-story building with retail on the ground floor with a co a coffee shop on the corner. Um I think it's a good

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project. It looks way better than what we have currently today. >> I believe the next step is a planning board review. >> Uh it'll be us. It'll come to us. come to us. Okay. Um the library board did not meet this month. The next meeting is

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September 21st. I also want to congratulate Vizios uh for their uh grand opening. The the uh ribbon cutting was very well attended. And lastly, the summer stroll which was cancelled uh couple last week or a couple weeks ago due to the air quality. Uh the next one

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is on August 21st. And that's my report. And just to re reiterate what you said, the Smith project, which is coming back and forth, this is what the redevelopment agency does. They they told them the building was too high. They told them there's too many units in it. They reduce it. They wanted uh less units. Uh they're not going to give up

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any retail. Initially, they were trying to give up the retail on the bottom floors. There was going to be a garage there. So, the redevelopment agents didn't accept any of those things. So, they these developers had to keep coming back, keep coming back, changing it, changing it, changing it till finally they're going to keep all the retail. When I say they're going to keep all the

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retail, all the businesses that are there now will be offered retail back in if they want to come back in. And then if they don't, then it's offered to other people. Um, and then the uh parking, there is no more parking structure being built there. It's all going to be uh internal on in the basement and we're going to sell them

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spots out of the pondole. So that's how that's how the give and take goes back and forth redevelopment, planning board. The next step, you're right, would be coming to us and then eventually the planning board. >> Okay. Attorney, have any report? >> I have no report, ma'am. Thank you, administrator. >> Thank you, mayor. Uh, please note that

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the county of Payic has awarded the burrow a $10,000 grant for what's called the America 250 program. Uh, so we're using this funding to support uh t-shirts for the Pompton Day and Pompton Day 5K, as well as American themed uh

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patriotic inflatables for Pompton Day. So, I want to thank Steve and Karen Murphy for all their work and helping me with that. So, that's good news. Uh, on tonight's meeting agenda, we did have uh several contracts on uh namely for the Hersfield Park phase 3 improvements

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project, which consists of the resurfacing of all of our walking paths in Hersfield Park. Uh, we do have a bid opening scheduled for August 19th at 10:00 a.m. with a likely construction date after Compton Day. Uh, so that's

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good news. Uh we also have a bid opening for what we call miscellaneous ADA curb ramp upgrades project uh which consists of curb ramp upgrades on Riverview Road, Pine Street, Riverdale Road, Durham Street, Whiteway, Harding, and uh

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several other streets. Uh and this project was funded by a uh $165,000 community development block grant from the county. Uh, in addition, we are working on the bid specs for the Lakeside AB phase one project, which

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again is the resurfacing of Lakeside A from Jefferson A to Chain Court and Chayen Court. And we're hoping to go go out to bid in September for that project. So, that is a uh to be determined schedule for that. And then lastly for the contracts, we had on a

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contract for the Pmpton Lakes Public Library Exterior Upgrades Project, which is funded by $750,000 worth of federal and county grant funding, and we're hoping to go out to bid uh for that project over the winter

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for a spring project. Uh so, lots of projects going on. Uh just wanted to point out and thank Meridia Capadagi for returning to the civic center to address several uh drainage related concerns as well as the installation of a new drain

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in the police department parking lot and additional sidewalk at the rear of the civic center uh which as the mayor knows allows for egress out of the Meridia building uh onto Burrow property. So we're looking forward to that. I did want to thank the DPW for all their work

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in the hot summer for the garbage and landscaping. So, I just wanted to appreciate them and all their hard work that they do for the barrel. Uh, as the mayor mentioned, the civic center is now accepting applications for rentals from residents for parties such as bridal

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bridal showers, baby showers, birthdays, graduations, etc. That process will begin on or after August 1st and residents are advised to contact the Burough Clerk's office for the application. Uh so we're looking forward to that.

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Um I also wanted to recognize it was on tonight's agenda and I know that he'll be here at a future meeting. Uh but just wanted to congratulate police sergeant Jonathan Williams for his retirement from the bow. uh you know for after

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years of dedicated service to the community and residents. Uh so thank you to uh Sergeant Williams and I know Chief will echo sentiments on that. And lastly, as the mayor indicated, our shared services agreement uh with the Bow of Oakland for solid waste recycling

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and vegetative waste collection services is is ongoing. Uh the staff is doing a great job with making some um last minute modifications with Oakland and finishing the collections uh much earlier than we had anticipated. Uh so

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we're looking forward to continuing that successful agreement. Thank you. And I I'm going to echo your thanks on the DPW because we we've asked them to take care of what we're doing in this hot weather, but we've also asked a bunch of new guys to come in and pick up garbage in a new

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area and some of these cans are not being um the right weights and you know there's a lot of involvement in in heavy cans and we haven't they haven't said I'm not going to do it. They you know they're they're working with us to make it happen. So you know especially on those days it's 105 degrees outside you know we got to give them credit for

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that. Also, thank you for reminding me about Johnny Williams. He's been a longtime officer here. It's glad to see him retire. Hope he enjoys his retirement and we'll talk to him more. And lastly, the only thing I'll say is I just want to wish uh Karen Murphy a healthy recovery. She's had some issues and she'll be moving forward. Hopefully

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be ready to go for Pompton Day, which we always looking for Karen when we're there. So hopefully she'll be there ready to go. Any questions for the administration? >> No. Okay. Motion to open the meeting for public comments. Chief. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I always forget the chief

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because that's due. I'm sorry. Forget that. Uh the chief's report. >> Yes. >> All right. So, for the for the month of June, the department um as always continued to uh be uh very proactive. Uh

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we responded to uh little over uh 2,10 incidents, of which 1,144 of them were dis were uh dispatch calls for service. Um, >> our uh patrol officers increased their traffic enforcement this month. They uh

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conducted uh 294 motor vehicle stops and they uh issued uh 255 uh motor vehicle summons as part of uh our ongoing commitment to improving our roadway safety. Our detective bureau remained very uh active um handling 15 new

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investigations while continuing several complex investigations in coordination with our county, state, and uh federal uh law enforcement partners. Uh department personnel also participated uh in uh the law enforcement torch run.

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Uh we uh helped out with the school graduation ceremonies. Um we had our annual awards ceremony and continued uh planning for our national night out. Uh internally uh we continue uh uh preparing for our upcoming

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reacreditation which should be happening in the in the middle of uh August. Um we uh had advance we made uh advanced uh several uh we made advancements in technology communication initiatives and

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uh we uh we remain in the background investigation phase um for hopefully an additional officer to uh replace uh Chief Clark. Uh overall June was another productive month. Uh,

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and I want to thank uh, every member of the department for their continued professionalism and dedication to serving the residents of Pompton Lakes. And then as for uh, Sergeant Williams, um, Sergeant Williams begins his terminal leave in August and his

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official retirement date will be uh, December 31st of 2026. um uh he was sorry that he had to cancel tonight but we will reschedu uh uh another night so that we can uh uh honor him. Uh he has uh 20 years of dedicated

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service uh to the burrow in the police department uh and then he has a number of years uh prior to that with the with the MUA. So uh you know we're going to wish him well as he does a good job here. Um, as for some of the uh the

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points that um you brought up um where would you like me to start? >> Yeah, where you >> Okay. >> Um as for Wanq and speeding. Um what I will tell you is that we are actually in the process of another traffic study right now. The last

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traffic study that was done online QAV was done um uh the results came in July 22nd or actually the study was conducted between July 22nd of 2025 in July 28th of 2025. almost a year ago. I can tell you in

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that study um the study did not identify any speeding issues on WQ a there were 22,976 vehicles which traveled in that portion of the roadway. Um the average speed on

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Waniq a was 22.28 mph with 80% traveling below the posted speed limit of 25 mph. Uh the majority of vehicles which were uh caught speeding uh were doing so between the hours of 5:00 a.m. and 8:00

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a.m. Um again that study was from a year ago. We have a current study uh uh now taking place on Wanqav. Um and uh we'll give you that report when when when that study is done. As for uh as for the or

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as for the ordinance, there is a threehour >> Well, let's go back the crosswalks. >> The crosswalks. >> Yeah. Especially the by the gas station, the max crosswalk. >> So, is the complaint that they're not the cars are not stopping? >> Not stopping. And you know, you know, I I the the resident that brought it up

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makes a good point in that, as you know, that's a cut off for a lot of kids coming up from that side of town to go back to the other side of town for whatever reason. Yes. Yes. And you know, when we have young kids crossing there, especially when there's no uh crossing guard in half hours, like in the summertime, really, we need to enforce

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the stopping of those cars at that, especially all crosswalks, but especially that one. >> Yes. I mean, it's it's definitely uh um I it's definitely an issue. We want we want our residents to stop or people that are are are doing business in town

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to stop. Um as always, our our our officers are informed of that. if they observe it, they would definitely uh they should be taking action in those situations. Um I'm sure a part of the problem is is that when these things are happening, unfortunately, there's not an officer in the area. Um, if that's the

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case, um, and and, uh, someone witnesses that, um, I would tell them that they could always call the police department, um, report it to us, um, uh, make sure they get the the registration from that, the license plate number on that, and,

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um, we can work with that person and and, uh, if they want, they can file complaints. Unfortunately, we can't file complaints because we didn't we didn't witness the infraction at the time. Um, but that being said, um, you know, uh, I can see how that

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>> So, how does how does the new cameras work or can we use that as can't use that? >> The cameras can't be used to, uh, enforce the motor vehicle violations. Our officer actually has to uh, witness it. So, there are states or there are

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some traffic cameras, I think, in other cities and um, that like a red light camera in some cities. Um, uh, there's I'm sure there's ordinances that have to be written, um, and there's guidelines with that, but what happens with with

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those with those, uh, with those infractions, they're not they're not the same as if an officer writes them. So, if they're a moving violation, uh, if you get a moving violation, you get points on your license. uh in the cities that have those those uh cameras like

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those red light cameras, they can get a monetary fine, but there is no you can't give them movie violation points. And um I'm not too sure with the law and the statute on how that how that how that would be regulated, but I think their ordinance would have to be written and things of that nature and there's

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guidelines. Uh >> all right. So years ago, we used to do sting operations on the crosswalks, putting our own officers in the crosswalks. something we could do again. You think >> we can definitely uh attempt to do it. The problem is is having in order to do

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uh a detail like that, you need like four or five officers. You need you need two you need two officers that are going to be in a vehicle uh on either side and then you need uh the decoy officers going through the crosswalk. So it it

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takes >> I will say this, I think a little training goes a long way with that. So, you know, we make a couple of examples of people and and look, I live up there. I see it all the time. Most cars, a lot of cars are not stopping there. But, you know, you see a young child trying to cross the street there, we shouldn't be

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taking a chance. So, I would say we should try to do another sting operation there. Even if we have to include overtime or make it work somehow. >> Yeah. I I I think a first step uh too is uh I'm sure there's there's uh we can put some literature out on social media uh reminding everybody that they need to

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stop for pedestrians that are in the crosswalk. We can put it on our traffic sign too that we have posted on wanting to prepare to stop at the crosswalk. Um things of that things of that nature to to to going to public >> and we had talked to uh I say two years

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ago about asking the county for one of these mats. you step on the mats and it turns the lights on flashing especially at that intersection. Yeah, because that's a very popular intersection. Is that something you think would work or not work or >> I mean it definitely helps on um you're talking about like the I think we have

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one on Ramopo out on Ramo say >> by the church by the church >> by the church. Yes. >> Uh so I walk there through there daily. Uh, I think I think anything that lights it up would definitely help, especially especially in a in that major intersection, >> but only when folks are crossing though, because if it's flashing all the time,

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people >> Yes, you have to hit the button and then then when they're ready to cross, it'll it'll it'll flash. I think it'll definitely wake people up. Might be something that we could >> So, maybe we can reach out to the county, >> if I may add, mayor. Uh so as part of the county's road resurfacing program,

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every year the burrow puts forth candidates that we would like to see uh resurfaced. So last year we had submitted for Hamburg turnpike. This year the county is paving Hamburg from Tune to the Bell and this year we requested Wanu A knowing all these

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concerns going on with the hopes of having Wanuku paved next year or the year after. So, I think in the meantime, we should discuss with the county what we would like to see as part of a potential project to get ahead of it uh before it's too late and they're out to

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bid for a project and strictly just resurfacing the street without any pedestrian safety modifications. So, we can have a meeting about that. >> And I and and you know, I'll call the county executive myself because they did have some about a year ago, they had some extra funding and that's how they got the ramicolite in because they had

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some extra funding. Let's see if we could push them a little bit to get there. And that's a busy intersection. I don't think they're going to deny us if they could do it to put it there. So, let's have that conversation with them. >> Yeah, I think it would be a good one, especially especially during the the we have the crossing guard out there during school. But, if it's something where we

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can get like that light out there and it gives us the option of also turning it on so that it's always on like during uh school hours, uh that would definitely help the crossing out in that intersection at at >> all. So, let's work on that. All right. Now, let's talk about the parking on um

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Wan. >> Yes. So, there's a there's a there's a the current ordinance uh restricts uh parking for three-hour increments Monday through Friday from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. After 6:00 p.m., they can park

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there as long as they want. Um and that's only Monday through Saturday. Uh Sunday doesn't apply and and uh certain holidays it doesn't apply. Um as for um the chalking of the tires, so

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uh it was a very useful tool back in the day. Um unfortunately about 2019 there was a adverse ruling um I want to say from uh one of the circuit courts that stated that it it uh constituted a

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fourth amendment violation for a search. So, we kind of went away from it. Since then, there's been some other cases that have happened, but there really hasn't been any clear guidance with that. So, long story short being is that pretty much all police departments have gone

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away gotten away from chalking tires. Um, and really the only way to do that is you kind of have to have some type of camera there, which we now do have a lot of cameras on. >> Use the cameras for that. we can use the

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we can use the cameras for that uh to show that it didn't move. Um, >> so that's an easy thing right now, right? We can kind of pick a day, say a Tuesday. Let's ticket everybody on Tuesday who did who's there longer than three hours and then, you know, next month it's a Wednesday or when next week, whatever it is.

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>> Yeah. >> So, we start educating the public a little bit. They can't do this. >> Yes. We would have to, you know, so right now we have uh the one uh public violations officer, which is which is uh officer uh Eckers. Uh he definitely gets

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out there, does the meters uh with Park Mobile and things like that. Um he also enforces the ponhole uh and stuff like that. Um so um unless someone is reporting at us to to

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us too, we don't necess we wouldn't necessarily know that a car is there for over 3 hours unless he actually goes there and then that car is um has the meter violation because you can't renew the meter after 3 hours. It won't let you park with the coin. You can

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>> that would be the only Yeah. So there So if they do it that way, there would be no way for my officer to know that that car was was uh was there over the 3 hours. >> Well, we would by camera though, wouldn't we? >> We would, but there would be no way

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there. So he would have to observe it, issue him, let's say, a summon for the violation or let's say he happened to observe that car at some time for whatever reason and then uh and then look to enforce that particular foot that particular summons, you know,

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otherwise it would be like looking at a needle in a haststack through all the cameras and all the >> So what I'm suggesting and and maybe I'm wrong, but let's just pick a day, a Tuesday from 12 to 3, we just go through pay someone to go through the films and see if a car has in there 3 hours and we and then we have the plate so we just

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ticket them. >> I I Yeah, I get what you're saying, but it would be it would it would be it would take the person off the road and then they would be hours and hours looking at at video and then there's multiple multiple videos and then like

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you >> Yeah, it would have to be only one video, right? Can't go through 17 videos right? >> Yes. Yes. And you'd have to almost look at that individual car or that area to make sure it didn't move. It It just wouldn't >> Well, I I don't know if that necessarily

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would be feasible. >> No, I get it. But I I understand and I've heard it from other residents, too, that and and this is something I just learned from our attorney. I guess handicapped plate people don't have to put money in the meter. >> They needed more time. >> There's a couple of different ones.

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There's handicapped dis uh disabled veterans. You can have a placer and they're they're meter exempt, >> but they still have to follow the 3-hour. >> No, >> they don't. >> No. >> As a matter of fact, I I did while we were here uh 394207

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says that a person with a disabled placard, handicap placer could only be ticketed after overstaying by 24 hours. >> Oh my gosh. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, that becomes a situation. So if they know that then they know they cannot have to move their cars. Correct.

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Is that what we're saying? >> Correct. >> That's not a great rule. >> No, you can't right now. No. Sorry. Um, so I mean if there if there is a violation and someone were to report it to us, we we would definitely take the action and that's where the cameras

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would come into play because then we can go to that particular area, make sure that the camera uh uh covers that area, let's say, and then look for that car that was like described to us and then we can go back and see how long that that car was actually parked there.

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>> So we're talking about two different things. That's for a non- handicap person. >> Correct. Correct. >> A handicap placard. There's no restriction. They can stay there forever. >> No. 24 hours. >> 24 hours. Move it once then bring it back 24 hours. >> Correct. >> But but our but want to queue out is is

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a little bit more restrictive in the fact that we have no overnight parking. So because we have no overnight parking, they they wouldn't be able to park there 24 hours anyway. >> Right. But they move in, they come back. All right. So that's the one side. Then what you're suggesting is if residents or storefront owners or whoever notice a

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car that they think has been there longer than three hours, they can make either anonymous call to the police department or give their state their name and and say, "Hey, look, I think this car has been there longer than 3 hours. Do do some research on the camera to see if it's been there." >> Correct. >> Okay. So, that's the way we want to handle that. Is there any uh patrolling

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that I looks at that? >> Yes. So, uh, so, uh, Officer Eckers as the PBO, his one of his main responsibilities is the traffic enforcement and the pawn hole and on WQF. >> All right. So, that's something we

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should just remind him to keep an eye on. >> Yes. >> Because I've heard it from with somebody today, but I've also heard it, for example, by the bakery and other areas. And I've spoken at that time it was the bank. The bank found it easier to just keep putting money in the meter in front of the bank as an employee than walking

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around to the back of the bank and parking where they could park there all day. And their basic argument was, I'm putting money in the meter. I'm not breaking the law. But they are breaking the law if they're there longer than 3 hours. >> Yes. Yes. Per the current order. Yes. Right. Per the colon. Yes. >> All right. Any questions from the

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council on this? Would we be able to limit instead of 3 hours it to like an hour in front of certain stores? Because the store people are shopping more than an hour, eating more than an hour, drinking more than an hour. >> They're getting ice cream. >> Well, you can't just pick one spot.

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>> I'm sure you can't. >> No, because you got a restaurant there, too. You got Max right there. >> You got is down from Max. >> Yeah, but you got a Spanish restaurant there too. >> I'm just saying one or two spots, man. >> Yeah, but they're going to the the other restaurants are going to say, I have people here that I want to stay two hours, three hours here. Parked

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elsewhere. >> One or two spots. One or two spots to get ice cream. I don't think is a >> Yeah, but then every store is going to say, "I want that in front of my store." Like the bakery's going to say, "I want that in front of my store." Okay. >> Cardinal Cafe is going to say, "I want that in front of my store." >> Okay. Thank you. >> So, I think unless we come up with a

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better suggestion on this, if they call it in, no matter where they are on the street, we'll take a look at it. Uh, but I the way I heard it from the initial person and they might have another chance to speak when they come up is that it was also handicapped Ballards that are in the car that we can't really

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respond to unless they 24 hours goes by. >> Correct. And they don't have to pay the meter >> and they don't have to. >> So, not only handicapped, disabled veterans, a different placer. >> Okay. Any other questions?

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>> Okay. uh on the uh on the crosswalk um flashing signs. I've been in towns where the crosswalk signs don't flash all the time. You push the button, right, >> and and then they flash. I might have missed this. >> And I've been in towns, too. They have

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the flashing lights. And they also have like little flags that the people walk across the street with flags so they go back and forth. this way the track knows that somebody's trying to cross, you know. Um, so that might be an idea, too.

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>> I I haven't seen that, but is that something they do? I don't know. >> I haven't seen the I don't know about the one with the flags, but that's it kind of along the lines of what I'm saying. The ones that We have the ones that flash already with the buttons. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But if we can I'm sure there's got to be some type of addition that we can put it

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where uh you know, we can go in there as well and then make it so that it's constant. So, like let's say when the when the crossing guard is there through like a peak time. So, it constantly warns that we're going to be uh that kids are constantly going to be crossing and watch out for the cross crossing guard. And then you can you can turn

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that you can turn >> and I remember a couple years ago and they haven't done it since, but they they used that special paint on those crosswalks that kind of shined more and was more stronger on the street than just typical white paint. Again, that's not us. That's the county that does that, but

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maybe we can ask the county. I don't know if they can revisit that. They use a special paint. >> And if I may add, the uh burrow did recently purchase a new professional uh line striping device that the DPW will be utilizing. Uh so we are planning on

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uh restriping all the parallel parking spots and crosswalks on Wanq in August, right? >> Um so we'll see when that is. >> Okay. Any other questions? >> No. Okay. Motion to open the meeting for public comments. >> Motion. Councilman Bennon. Councilman B.

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All in favor? >> I against. Anyone from the public like to address? Oh, I didn't miss workshop. No, you don't have workshop. >> Okay, I'll address. >> Sure. Come on. >> I'm going to take exception to what the chief said in regards and address. >> Pardon me. >> Just need your name and address.

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>> Randy, uh, Pratt 322 Avenue, Ponta Lakes. Under the code here, it says that a handicapped person is either the driver or a passenger in that vehicle. I can assure you, chief, that the person

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that is sitting in that parking spot is not the handicapped person that tag is for. I think the excuse that we've heard tonight that we're going to use these cameras. I had a young lady who came to me several months ago from Lennox Avenue

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where her car was hit and run and she knows that I have a video camera outside of my shop and she was looking for a specific car because her neighbor saw that car hit her car. Unfortunately, I

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don't have high tech camera work there. She came allegedly she came to the police department to ask if they had video camera and she was told allegedly that the police do not monitor those cameras. So in order for the police

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department to monitor those cameras for a parking violation what what no one's monitoring it >> they wouldn't be monitoring. They go back into the the system and say we need to look at the the time frame between this and this. I get that, mayor. But

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again, what I'm hearing is pass the buck down on the road. Get a meter made. One of the things, chief, that you spoke at back in February, March at that chamber of commerce meeting when we first met. And again, it's a pleasure to meet you again. And this is not Please don't take this personally. >> I don't. This is just an aggravating

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situation that is taking place in our town and it's hurting my business as well as other businesses around me when people consistently in my opinion break the law and there's no consequence. >> So what do you when you say break the we've got to be more

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>> meaning that they're extending their time >> or won't fix that part. I understand it. But if there's not consistency, and I spoke with one of your officers about this, if there's not consistency in in

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in um giving fines to the people who are breaking those those parking regulations, then it's like the broken windows theory. You break one window, then you find a second broken window, and then you have health or stealth. But what I'm saying is even if we were to hire a meter mate, they would still have to

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within that 3 hours identify that car hasn't moved in 3 hours. >> Maybe this is a question for the burough attorney. I'm not putting you on the spot, but I know and I and I've read as well what the chief was indicating about the mark on the tire and stuff is and if

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the law is specific to a chalk mark, can it be a crayon mark? Can it be a sticky mark? Can it be something else? I haven't seen the case, but it's got to be having physical contact with the vehicle, I think. >> So, why have meters then? Get rid of the

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meters. Total Union Boulevard in Toa, there's no meters. There's literally no lines painted on the road. And you said earlier, mayor, and I heard this back in the 1980s when I lived in town, Wanab is a county road.

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Take it back from them. >> Can't you take it back? >> They won't do that. have a resurrection, okay? Do something because the war and everything is is it's it's it really is frustrating. And and I'm I'm sorry to

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take this out on you, cheek, but >> but it there needs to be there needs to be something done. And sometimes I have found in 46 years of being in Pton Lakes that it moves like a dead snail. Things don't get done. All right? And all I'm

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asking is that if there's a law in the code and it's on the books, enforce it with regularity and with consistency. But I think that's all I'm asking. And I and I hear you and and and there's two parts to that. You know, use the the snow removal on the on the they did a horrible job on the on the county road

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during these snowtorms. That's not my guys doing a bad job. That's the county doing a bad job. We call the county. We say, "Look guys, you didn't come and pile this. There's snow against the doors, but we're held at their at their stuff. We can't say come do this today. They they come when they come. So that's

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the first thing. The second thing is there is a law on the books but the law has been changed about marking the tires. So now it becomes an issue of how do I identify that car hasn't moved in 3 hours. Now you're the one who also brought up the handicap part of it. It seems to me and I I just learned this myself that we don't even have anything

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to say about that. They could be there for a while. >> All right. So, you just brought something up about um snow removal that you have um sidewalks where business owners are not removing their snow. >> That is correct. We could find that.

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Yes, >> I can give you names and and business names, okay? And the people who own those businesses that they are not removing their snow. I'm out there breaking my back, shoveling where I should probably be in Key West, Florida enjoying the sunshine during the winter, but I'm out there putting salt down and

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making sure that my sidewalk is clean. >> And we do that. We I can tell you we do enforce that. We give them some time. >> No, you don't. Because there were three storms this year. The person next to me didn't do her uh sidewalk at all. >> But how do you know they didn't get a ticket? >> They didn't. I know they didn't.

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>> Can't I can't tell you. >> They didn't. They >> But let's work with the problems you brought in. I mean, so that's why we're addressing we're talking about I got the chief here. You know, I think to start with, I think the best scenario is if you see someone you think is longer than 3 hours, even if you think, just call the police for not a big deal. Make a

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quick call. They'll re view the tape on that car and and keep a track on it. See, the problem is what I think he's saying is we can't just sit someone in front of a camera 24 hours a day to watch that. Just can't do that. And just to clarify, the cameras, uh, I I don't know who who, uh, this

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individual was, what officer, um, that they spoke to. Um, but, uh, the information that they got was incorrect. Those cameras are monitored 24 hours a day, 7 days a week in our dispatch center. Uh, that being said,

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there's uh, over 20s something cameras in that dispatch center that are also being monitored. So someone's just not there specifically looking at that portion of Wiku app and we have a number of cameras on Wanq. Um if that individual followed up with uh the

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proper personnel andor supervisor and they had that accident um then someone could have looked at those cameras and tried to identify who uh hit her car because there is a camera uh that monitors uh that section of Wanq app.

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Um, so if it's in within the last 30 days, please tell her to come in and we will try to attempt to uh to uh to find them. Um, and then you know, as for as for our

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our our officers or uh specifically officer Echanav in the pond hole. Uh, uh, we do our best. we can't be out there unfortunately 24 hours a day um uh doing

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that and a meter made uh um it it would it would it would be the same thing. They're not going to be out there 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. So, there's always going to be it's not it's not a perfect process. Um, I would say

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my guys do their best uh to enforce uh the statutes on Moniku a and in the pothole. Um, but there's there's going to be there's going to be times and issues where things uh slip by. Um, but

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again, if you have an issue, please don't hesitate to call um our dispatch center and then we will send an officer over to address your your concern. >> Okay, chief. I'm not looking for 24/7. I'm looking for between the hours of 9

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to 6, Monday through Saturday, which you earlier mentioned, if I heard you correctly, Monday through Friday. It's actually Monday through Saturday. Unless something has changed, then I won't be putting money in a meter on a Saturday. Okay, >> that's the first thing. The second thing is is that you have a black BMW that

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sits in the same parking spot every single day, 5 days a week, just past the bus station. Bus stop there by math. All right. And I've seen people almost getting hit right outside 700 ft from where we're standing on on Wanuku and

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Lennox trying to get across the street there. >> Never once in 6 years have I seen a ticket or an officer giving that BMW who exceeds the 3 hours time limit. I've seen a a white Honda who's a business owner making K turns and U-turns almost

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getting t-boned in the middle of Wanq Avenue. Now, you know, it's a double yellow line. You can't cross that double yellow line, let alone make a K. >> Officer has to see that usually. >> Now, you have video cameras out there. I'm happy to call you and say, "Hey, check out that video and check it out."

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>> Yes. But we can't afford we can't enforce motor vehicle summons off of off of a video camera. We got to we have that. So, if we if you if you if you come in, um if if if you if you come in or call us, um we'll be more than happy

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to to take the complaint. You you're always welcome to also um file a complaint as well. Um >> that shouldn't be my job. That should be your job. I'm sorry. Off uh Chief, that's your officer's job. Mayor made a very good point earlier about people setting up a sting operation. Wayne did

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it very successfully over on Ratchet Road a few months ago. >> You start handing out tickets on Wanq Avenue, you see how fast you clean up Wanuk Avenue. Get your patrol officers out there and start handing out tickets. That's all I have to say. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much.

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>> Any options public to address up? >> Good evening. Alivista Springwood Court Lakes. I had no intentions of saying anything but >> Oh, no. >> I've been around a few years, so maybe I can shed some light. I have been saying for years we need a traffic light at

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KFax and Wanuk. They're both county roads. That intersection right now is a problem. When this new Smith project gets done and the Washington building gets done

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and school opens, it's going to be a mess. So, I would suggest that the county install a traffic light. Now, traffic lights provide gaps. If you go to any zoning board meeting or planning board meeting, that's all I talk about is

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traffic gaps. Okay? When they the light turns red, it provides a traffic gap for people to cross. It slows down traffic in that main street. Right now, you've got a thoroughare from the railroad tracks right down a library like a speed racing uh course.

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The traffic light, the infrastructure at least should be put in now like they did at Riverdale and Riverdale at Riverdale Road and North Pont Turnpike. The infrastructure is there. It's ready for the light. Put it in now. Mr. Cwley talked about paving on a QF. Let's get that infrastructure in the ground now

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before that road gets paved and then when time comes they can put the signals up. But that signal light there and I did traffic for years. the special police officer in that corner when we were in our heyday with stores on Wanq Avenue. It will break up traffic. It

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will slow down traffic. It will provide people the ability to cross. We've heard this a 100 times about and they did it one year a couple years ago. The white crosswalk lines should be painted in April or May,

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not August or September. People are walking that main street in the summer. They're out there. They're going to Ry's ice cream. They're going to the diner. They're going wherever. They're going sushi place. I told you at this council meeting, I come out of Max with my son

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after dinner and it was almost impossible to get across that street because you can't see the you can't see the crossing at night. Now, you mentioned reflective paint. The county will only stripe the road when the road is repaved. They'll come in and they'll stripe it, which they do. But once

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that's done, and I've been told this by the county, it's our responsibility to paint those white lines, which our burrow has always done, but they always do it in September. It should be done in April or May for the summer. The other thing, they're not visible

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because of the cars parked on both sides of the street and because people are looking for the address that they're going to. You come up on those crosswalks. Now, if you go down door sideway, you go down Kofax Sav, any of these streets that were recently be been

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repaved with federal funding and county funding, they have those bright yellow crosswalk signs with a square sign with an arrow underneath it that points right to the crosswalk. We don't have anything like that on QF.

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You get downfight one blinky sign. I agree with the mayor. After a while, you get mesmerized by it. You don't even see it. Now, the winter school, I believe, put the one in, you push the button in the middle of town. And you know, those things are beneficial. There's no doubt

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about it. But the crosswalks have to be better marked with signage. And I would suggest looking at Doideway, looking at Kfax Avenue, see how they did it there and mimic that. Okay? you see that as you're going down the road. But I think the traffic light should be discussed

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ASAP as a burrow. Get the county to put that in. That'll provide your gaps. It'll slow traffic down. Trust me. Okay. I got a lot of experience out there over the years. I watch traffic when I'm walking through town. And yeah, these problems can be addressed, but they

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we've got to get on top of it and just get the job done in my opinion. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else from the public address? I just like to ask if you >> well finish. >> Yes. >> Anybody else? >> Motion to close the public session. >> Motion. >> Councilman Betty. >> Second. >> Council President Kent. All in favor?

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>> I against. Uh just I'll let you talk in a minute. Al just remember though that that the county approves all the projects we put in. So if they wanted a light, they would have said no, we want a light there. They don't want a light there right now. So the problem is we could ask for it and the county still says no. We don't see a need for a light

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there. So, you know, it's an uphill fight. I agree maybe a light would help there, but the county has to be on board with the light. Um, you know, and and uh and we do have to push them. Yes. But but at the end of the day, they've, you know, when they get these projects done,

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the Smith project, the lakeside, they go to the county for their approvals, the county doesn't tell them, "We're thinking about putting a light down." So that's firstly, but I'll let the chief, you had something you want to say? >> Yes. I just wanted to so I just I just want to want to make clear that you know

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I take I take every every residents and business owners concerns very very seriously. Um the the bottom line is is that is that for Pmpton Lakes we have a 24

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department. Okay. My first priority is making sure that the residents get the services that they need by responding to emergency calls, uh, uh, ambulance calls, calls for service, um, and and

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things of that nature. Secondary to that is that I expect every officer to go out there and try to be proactive uh, in their enforcement. And when I mean proactive, um, issuing, uh, traffic

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sentences, getting on one Q and looking for infractions, that's proactive policing. Um, unfortunately, when um when they're tied down with other calls

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because we uh, for whatever reason, uh, we only have three men on shift and two men on shift at times. um there's precedence to to those calls and and then I I think as a council we need to understand that if we have two people

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that are working and those are the only two people in the burrow responding to calls then it becomes difficult for us to be proactive in some of these other pursuits that we always want to do. But I have to say that my officers and I I

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have to say this, they do a very good job uh and the sergeants out there do a very good job balancing uh being able to handle calls and being proactive. And I think if you look at our numbers and what we do, um uh we strive uh to be the

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best we can be. We're always striving to do better. Um, and like I said, um, you know, my point, uh, my point to I'm sorry, I forget your name. Point to the gentleman was not to put it on his shoulders. Um, because I'm very aware of

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what I need to do in my job, but my point was is that if we are not there, because we can't be on Wikav all the time. Um, in order to help us, we need our

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residents to report what those infractions are. Um, and if we don't have the report, then we can't take enforcement. We don't necessarily know. So, I thank you for coming out and and letting us know further about the issues on WQI. Um, and

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we will get out there and and do our best to address them. Um, but I would implore every resident if there other if there are other issues on other areas of long have to report it and do our best to go out there. >> And let me remind the public cuz and and again this is I understand public know

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this by law we are not allowed to tell police officers to go write more tickets anywhere. Okay, that is not something we can do. They have to take the responsibility as part of their job they take seriously to write some. But I can't grab five officers and say start writing 10 more tickets on Wanq Avenue.

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It doesn't work that way. and and it's against the law actually. Um but the other thing I would say is too I mean we don't normally have twoman patrols out. I mean there normally if we have there's three or four man patrols. >> Correct. So during the summer months we are short right now. We have some vacation or whatever. Right.

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>> Yes. On on other types of leaves. So yes >> unfortunately that's what we're working. >> So and and I think the the final note I'll make on this if you we could it doesn't have to happen tomorrow. we can maybe readress the sting operations on the crosswalks and on the parking because I I still I do agree with one of the things that one one of the gentlemen

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said is we ticket a couple people will pay attention. Same thing with the graffiti. I know Councilman Bennett's all on top of the graffiti. Once we get that one person that we know is doing it, let's write a ticket to them. >> Go back. I don't know if you remember, we had put together uh an active enforcement detail

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throughout the town. We had we had uh we had good results. Yeah, let's do it again. We had good results. >> Okay. Okay. Approach the floor. Anybody approach the floor? >> No. Okay. Motion to adjourn into close session. >> Second. >> Councilman B. Councilman Bennon. All in favor? I.

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>> Yes. Thank you every for coming. We have to go into close session. If you want to take my cell phone number, I'll be glad to give it to you. >> Well, if you want to take my cell phone number, I'll give it to you whenever you have a question. >> In close session, we discuss personnel and negotiation matters. Motion to

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return. >> Motion second. >> Councilman Bennett, Councilman's Bay. All in favor? I >> against. Okay, that's it. >> Thank you.