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--------- city FLC meetings world cities mix that's what I do with last year's budget is short how much

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26 26 we took that out out of our reserves to our reserve but we're this. [clears throat] >> We're not there yet, Bill. We're still budget. Still dealing with the budget. >> I'm talking about budget.

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>> Yeah, but you're talking about a resolution for the budget and we're we're talking about the whole thing. You're just talking about one part of it. So, we're not there yet. >> Think we are there.

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>> Okay. Okay. So, um in agreement to put that money back in, >> you want me to put $1,000 back or takes >> whatever it's been running. But I do if you want me to go you have can't go >> on an average you know how much it's

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been running in order to >> it looks like in the past few years we've spent 2400 $1,800 $400 and $1300. So >> that's what was spent on here. >> What I'm saying is there's a better way

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to spend this money that the city's got and send us off on a vacation. >> There probably is, Bill. But what I'm saying is that if you want me to go and represent the city at that meeting, then you'll have to cover my expenses because

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I cannot drive back after 8:00 tonight on interstate. I'm just not going to do it. >> And it's wonderful. You can't do it any fine. I'll give it up. But >> [clears throat] >> Yes. And yes,

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>> y'all will only have So, if I put the 3,000 back, we'll be putting $691 into reserves, but I could put like 1,500 or do you think they're probably 120 as high

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Disney >> once a month. Yeah, sometimes it's the most Do they need to work? >> No. >> Yeah.

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>> We have I think this one is that Miss L should unless you say something that's supposed to go. driving back along at night. >> I really think that that's the problem.

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I think it's more so on the bus. >> That's the problem is we got to pay but do I need to we need to vote? I don't think >> back in for now. [clears throat] Any discussion on the budget? Any other

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discussion on budget? >> I have a my question is we we're taking from cash reserve to pay for something

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another payment. If we're in that kind of trouble that we got to go to reserve to make these not payments. Then the next question is why not you resolution? Huh? You on the resolution now?

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I'm talking about $31,000 >> resolution. Is there any other if there any other discussion on agend 620 651 is that

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in this year's budget? It's in the budget packet y'all just got, but it was not >> in in this budget packet. It's all underwater and it was deleted the 401007XX

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water repay loan SRF number 620261 and it's the $62,000 or $62,78. So half of it's two payments a year and that first loan payment is starting in August.

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So we have to make it this year in this budget. >> Yeah. >> This is John. I'm not sure which one this is. 2026. I >> think that's the word. >> It's old. It's not It's not one of these

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current that we've got. No, this would have been a completed project that we're just now starting to pay the loan on. >> That's the water filters. The loan portion of the water filters. >> The water filters over. >> So, how much? You said we're just now

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starting to pay the >> year. I have to make a payment. So, how many more of these will we have to do? >> I'd have to think it's like 1.9%. >> Yeah, we got almost $4 million. We borrow a million to get to 5 million

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total or no more than that. We borrow >> it's usually like 8020 and we're responsible for our 20%. >> And we do it over a loan at a low interest rate. >> Okay. >> But but we don't have the money. We have

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to transfer. >> We have the money in the bank. It just wasn't budgeted in last like in this fiscal year. >> So be on time to be with us, >> right? like for and then the budget document that y'all just received for next fiscal year. It's budgeted.

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>> It's way on time. >> It was just a mistake. But I guess that this is the first thing. It started this year, not next year. >> Started in October.

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>> It would be any issue, right? Anyway, any more discussion on this? Anyone from the last motion? Second bronze. >> What do you >> resolution for the

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>> resolution? >> Council Hampton. >> Yes. >> Wood. >> Yes. >> Rain. >> Yes. Mayor Ketcher. >> Yes. Um council been discuss center street and main street council will take me to

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necessary this something um sheriff asked me about I guess it's Friday maybe Saturday I can't remember he called me this the other intersection next to first baptist he said there's

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been told anyway some speeding going on and yeah people were pulling across the roadway and he said if he he would think he slow the traffic down there's any better suggestions

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that'd be great too just trying to look for a way to slow the traffic down that one block area Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, sir. >> I attend church there. I cross that road every Sunday. >> Yes, sir. >> I've never seen an issue. >> Okay. >> There have been any accidents at that intersection.

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>> And if you place that fourway there in close proximity to the other four-way, it's a short city block. >> You're going to congest traffic, especially during school zone times. You're going to have limited access for school buses to turn. >> What's happening? >> You're going to have problems with

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traffic issues if you place them there. I think I think if something wants to be done, we have to do an engineered study on that intersection to make sure it's feasible, but I'm I'm not in support of that. >> Okay. I did talk to somebody who goes to

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a church and they told me they didn't necessarily say it was a big problem but he said something to people that don't cross the road as fast as others that's the problem and all but a problem every every Sunday but

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>> I don't know church there like you do I don't >> usually when somebody approaches that roadway all traffic stops anyway I've never seen anybody continue to drive as soon as somebody walks into that road It's It's managed very well by the people there. >> What about the ones that cross like right? >> That's right. That's why that's why I

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walk across. >> You can't put a crosswalk just right there. >> So, you can put a cross I think a crosswalk would be a perfect idea. Okay. >> Yeah. Sound. >> Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So, and there's a whole big parking lot in the back. Folks, if there's concerns about getting

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run over on street park, >> it's not. We're in Florida. >> It would be okay to put a crosswalk. >> Oh, yeah. I think I think crosswalk perfect idea and some signage to help with that. >> There's a sidewalk right there where where Glenn connects to the

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>> There's a sidewalk right there. Yeah, it goes. Yeah. >> Put it right there. >> Okay. >> You can make it a larger hash off area, too, and make just a little bit bigger. >> Yes, ma'am. If they do,

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>> they can get they can select some church members to get out there direct traffic. >> I was going to say I will offer that. I will help. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm there anyway. I will help. >> Yeah. breakfast.

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>> I think the biggest expens I think just direction from the council should be fine. Okay. All right. Well, did agenda we were supposed to discuss it? >> So, it was discussed. >> Yes, we did. Yeah.

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>> Take any extra name necessary. >> I I I will pay more attention now that this has been brought up and if I issue, I'll bring it back to the council. We'll discuss it further. >> Yeah. I'll >> But I haven't seen any issues and I cross over with my granddaughters all

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the time. >> Yeah. You understand? Yeah. Yeah. Very good. Okay. Agenda item 6D council to appoint one citizen to serve on fire pension board council will take any name

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necessary to serve on that. Okay. Guess we'll continue to look for someone position 6 council to discuss any mandatory evaluation and council will take any

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action necessary. Oh, all that's Everybody's consens emails for me. Be more fun. >> I wish somebody would check all my emails for me. >> I'll check them, man. I like what I said. I used to where they were spending

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a lot more time out in the field with the guys seeing what was going on and getting the mail heart of the city and I was all day signing forms and sending emails back and scanning papers. I'll start getting AI to respond on my

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email. I thought it was very productive and >> my wife didn't wash my butt walked through your butt. They weren't clean. Well, a while back up. You found it. >> That pretty much says it all.

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>> That's your problem. Don't think it's going to cover everything. I didn't tell y'all that last week. >> Yeah. The state didn't approve any of the fur out the parks grants. They had the number one in number states project which

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second year in a row they approve a single third but we were number one on the list. >> Wow. All right. 96F. Any more discussion on

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it 6f approval of minutes from July 14th, 2026 regular session. Have any questions? motion. >> Second Brian, yes. Council member Hampton, >> yes. Council, >> yes.

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>> Landry, >> yes. 96D approval of amendments 28 2026 regular session >> any corrections or additions on there motion >> yes

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Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. RB is trying to get all of our um inspection and testing reports for hydrants up to speed. Haven't been done very well lately and we have about they've estimated 30 or 40 private fire

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hydrants and we have zero paperwork for they've ever been tested or flowed or any of that. So, he's going to send them a letter, but in the letter, he's going to give them the option to use us as a flow testing. Um, because it includes a fee. I don't I believe have to be done

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by ordinance. So, like approve all fees. Most of them are in the $50 to $200 range. I think RB was thinking about $75 for just flow test and then 150 for the um hotel.

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capacity test or pressure test. The pressure test when you say private is that residents? >> No, this is like Walmart. >> Oh, businesses. >> Okay. >> That'll really help our ISO score because right now we have no records for

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any of those private ones. We're going to send them a letter to give them the option get it done on their own, send us paperwork or we'll do it for a pretty relatively low fee. Okay. >> Have they all been repaired or checked out by our guys? >> No, we're not not allowed to until they

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give us permission. >> They're theirs. >> What? They're the businesses. They haven't been >> They're on our water system, but it's the businesses either. >> So, they were responsible for all. >> Yeah. I got to figure out that if we break one of them over,

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>> what to do there? >> Jesus, >> but I bring I'll bring us back next meeting with the fees scheduled so we can get that started. >> I could you said there's how many >> 30 to 40

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>> and Walmart and other shopping businesses? Yeah, probably super work on it today. Get it together. >> I don't have any.

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>> Yeah, this came up today. I just want to go ahead and tell you that I was going to bring you an ordinance next meeting. >> Yeah. >> Okay, please. >> So, in the past, the fire department has just tested off the city hall. He's going a little further this year

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and tested any he can find. >> When I sent a letter and said you had the option to test it on your own, >> thank this came up is this time he expanded beyond what you usually look at. Or have we tested these back? >> You rely on the owner to test it. Hope

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they're gonna send you the information. They haven't been getting anything backed. So yeah. >> Okay. >> John, speaking of super that smell is like in the area. >> They've been having a lot of issues here

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the last while really the last week. I don't think he's going to shut them down. He's almost threat because it's they're messing our plan up. >> See, that's not >> we talked about that this morning. >> They've been racking up the fines and everything. I guess it just cheaper for

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them to run it bad than try to run it the way they need to. I know they had turnover with some operators too. >> You can they can tell sometimes when operator there when a different one's there. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just a minute. >> Oh yeah. Yeah.

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quick. I got a phone call the other day that this was it was really confusing how the motion went. At one point it was just the license plate reading cameras. It sounded like somebody in the back said

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no all cameras and we said yeah that's the motion all cameras. So that includes the cameras we have in the garbage trucks. It's the rear facing, forward facing that that watches the guy driving the truck and watches outside. How you're picking up just I was taking them

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out because it's a it's stoing data on a cloud somewhere. >> I don't know what they're doing. >> We have cameras in our yard trucks. >> Was the intent of the council just for the LPR? >> Yes. That's the camera. >> The block came

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on the park, too. >> We've covered those up. >> Yeah. >> We need some kind of cameras in the park. So, they don't have to be >> They're brand cameras. They don't read license plates. >> They They don't read license plates.

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The ones in the parks do not read. >> Do they store? >> No. >> No. I was on the floor >> license plate license plate reading >> readers. Yes. >> So just the license plate reader program. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And all companies that try and come in,

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>> right? What about >> the speed zone cameras are approved a couple years ago. That's how it was reading the license plate. >> True. >> So it takes the license plate of the violator only if they're speeding. That's that's >> So it has like a sensor that clicks on.

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>> Yeah. If they're speeding, it takes a picture. >> Okay. >> So, we can send them the ticket. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's red speed. Yeah. Red speed, >> which by the way, we'll start the 30-day warning period starting Monday. >> Okay. There'll be 30 days of warnings.

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Um, and we'll get it to the newspaper. We'll get some stuff pushed out about the warning period to make sure we're in compliance with that. >> That's in the school zone. >> Yes, ma'am. School zone. four. >> There's four four school zones.

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>> Four school zones. Yeah, >> I've seen the signs. That's They're good signs. It takes your attention. >> And this morning and yesterday morning, people were doing the speed limit. So,

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>> partially already accomplished right now. So, mostly. I'm sure there's some people that weren't, but on I saw >> it was noticeable as >> and they're not even at yet. So, >> did anyone

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Let's have a motion to remove all automated license plate recognition cameras. You can't say that if you want to keep the schools on camp programs only >> only ALPR programs

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on campus. >> So their motion >> still sees on cameras. School speeds on cameras. Well, you could you could add to the motion that the school speeds on cameras are not part of this >> except

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I don't think that was >> the school campus to be involved in this. >> That's what we're saying. >> The motion was so the motion was so broad that it could be interpreted to prevent any campus. >> The trial

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the trial. Well, and you know, I did note I sent y'all get the email that we canled all all of it. They're supposed to be everything. >> Yes. >> Your motion was continue to discontin. >> Okay. If that's the motion, then

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everything else >> and to the parks >> that parks cameras are part of that trial, >> right? We You know, I mean, we were having all these trouble with the parks and he said he thought he had a solution.

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Go ahead and try to do something about it. This was it. Not saying there any other we could use process a different kind we could use baby or >> how about how about I'll bring back options for the parks later

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>> and we'll just basically say as that trial is over and if we decide that to do cameras even if it's with flock you would have to approve. >> Is that fine? >> It depend for those cameras it's $3,000 per camera. Simple.

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>> Yeah. Per year. >> Per year. >> And we can't find anything cheaper. >> We looked at a solution one time and it was going to cost us over $100,000. >> Something that was Motorola.

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>> Yeah. >> What about the the cameras are >> they have been useful to us. >> Yes. I'd like those. Did you start pulling them out?

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>> The motion. The motion said all cameras. Then me and war got talking. you know, been a part, but I did mention that. >> I I think we'd have to have a new motion

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to exempt the school home speed cameras and all other cameras that are not ALPR program only. I think that would clean it up and there would be no um >> nowhere for someone to attack that later.

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Just a suggestion, you know. >> Yeah, because we did go on another company and try and sell us the same. >> Yeah. >> John, what is the what does the garbage truck came? >> It's one facing the driver. Make sure he's not distracted by his

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>> phone basically in out and on the sides and back. >> They don't have any software that reads or stores or >> stores for accident. >> Yeah. And then one followup question.

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I don't know if it was here, but I know many departments have cameras in the patrol cars that constantly scan traffic for license plates and it alerts the officer if there is a war or something like

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that. Do your cars have that car? >> That they have the capability, but we don't have it enabled or not. That's more money. We So it's just a video >> video that does not operate any kind. >> It does not read.

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>> Yeah, this thing's been around for 30 years. >> ABR has been around for a long time. >> So >> yeah, probably almost 40 years if you look at some of the military installations because they use them there. >> Well, we get the rest of the or leftover

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technology from the military. So yeah, probably. Yeah. We get it. >> Yeah. Exactly. I learned. >> So, okay. So, >> motion

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resolution. make a motion like a new resolution because the one that's read to allow >> specifically >> I think the motion to the intent of the original motion was to eliminate an ALPR

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program in the city. I think that by itself is tailored specifically enough to say that can't come here an ALPR program, >> right? So, you know, that way we don't eliminate cameras on garbage truck, cameras in parks if we need them, cameras anywhere else, >> or we don't um negatively impact

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businesses that want to have their own cameras up for their security. I think, you know, a pro a motion to prohibit or a moratorum to prohibit ARPR programs in the city would eliminate anybody coming

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in. I think that would be tailored narrow enough where you wouldn't impact cameras that are useful that are not ALPR. >> So, motion already made itself but

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you know what it meant emotion >> I wasn't here well the thing is we just had we had to be clear because >> it was clear >> was a standard all cameras >> you know what the minute said

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>> Miss Landry asked about the cameras of the parks and somebody in the back of the crowd yelled We want all cameras. And somebody said, "Yes, that's what we want." >> Have you got Can you tell us what the poster reads now, John? >> I think April

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don't take correction from the audience and it said in the trial program trial program. That's what I say. I didn't get just because I'm yellow back. I didn't get that short looking. >> Okay. So, it says provid prohibit a PR

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cameras. >> Uh but the schools on cameras take a picture >> motion. It's what's in the minutes. >> We're minutes. No, I mean we just need let's accept the schools on cameras.

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>> That's it. But Hampton's motion is ALPR cameras. Um and it specifically says swap cameras and prohibit the future use of ALPR cameras. But if that f if that ARPR stays in

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there, we can't do the school stuff. >> So what type of cameras are we trying to get them rid of? ARPR programs. >> Okay, we'll just >> so that we don't have cameras just for reading tags. >> That's, you know, the cameras we got in school are for taking a picture of a

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violator's tag, not for just people driving by. And that's what they use. >> There was only one trap here going at the school campus.

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Their motion was to to end the trial period and to remove all. >> Yes, ma'am. I agree. >> If there if the cameras are a part of the trial period, then they need to be

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removed. >> I I agree. I I agree. >> That is the motion that was approved. >> Yes, ma'am. I agree. That's the motion. But I think looking at the motion and reading it that that one section of the APR could cause us an issue in the school zones if it's not

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changed to allow the enforcement of speeding. >> Oh, he's got cameras for that. >> No, it's red speed is the name of a lot of cameras. And so we learn all the panels.

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>> Miss I think someone could contest their speed ticket because you guys made a motion that said all AP say you make an exception that their school came out. He won't have to pay that.

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I never use the APR in my channel. But >> this after y'all said flock call came and stood up here and said we don't want this flock on. We want all ALPR cameras y'all. And y'all added that to the

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motion to the motion went on for like five minutes. Okay. So, we just need to put programs behind this. >> Well, student what we need to do is black things on cameras. Red's on cameras. Red's also

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>> red speed. Okay. >> I think we're getting mixed up a lot of slot. >> Red speed. >> Yes. a lot of cameras become a bird, but it's actually a dance now. >> Yeah. >> So,

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what we need to do is make sure we le accept a less than accepts on campus and schools schools on campus >> and that would that would be appropriate as a new motion to allow that. Well, you already approved the contract, but I

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think this current vote would eliminate that if somebody, like you said, if somebody argued that you said you couldn't use cameras to read tags, but I got a ticket because you read my tag. I That's that argument I'm trying in the legal world is that I'm trying to make

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sure we have it tailored so we keep program school safe. So, did you make a motion to le accept a school on camera in school? No, I wouldn't do that. I would say that that um actually it'd be

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cleaner to to say that um the prior approved contract for Redstein is not impacted by the ALPR moratorum in the city. >> Anybody want to make a motion? That's a lot. >> What I said.

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>> Yes, [laughter] >> that's her motion. What I said. There you go. >> I said it. >> It was close. Yeah. I think we're all dancing around. Now we clear what we're doing. Yes.

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And J covers everything. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Let me breathe. >> Council Bryce. >> Council Hampton. >> Yes. >> Council Wood. >> Yes. >> Mayor Landry. >> Yes. Mayor Ketchup. >> Yes.

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Please. The town still. >> Is that correct? >> All right. the garbage truck. When I tell them about the garbage truck, then everybody else has got a dash cam.

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[clears throat] >> All right. Not with us tonight. >> She texted all of us that she ran into some issues while she was in Tallahassee. >> Okay. This one is pray about community and I feel this going on Man,

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what happened? And [clears throat] I have I have grandsons or family members. um and what's going on in our community right now. We just need to pray

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and ask for, you know, God to shield and protect and us peace and grace and to cover our young children with his blood.

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Families need us. We need each other. Um, and I just hope that is responsible for this crime that they will soon be brought to

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justice. That is my pledge to the city. Thank you. get from concerns about the possibility of the housing development

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on 221 particular concerns about the flooding that is already happening has been happening for years on Bard Street but it's it's going to feed right into that and make it worse and also um bringing

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the property values down of the neighborhood that it's being built next to. Those are just some concerns like that. And I know nothing's been done on that. No decisions, no permits or anything like that. They're just throwing that out there for the board

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that makes those decisions. Make them aware. Um, and also I mean he um I guess I could have called Daniel about it, but there's a hole at the end of High Street

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where it goes into um Jefferson 221 there and it was patched one time and part of the patch held but the other part didn't. So if they could patch that hole it would be helpful. Thank you,

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>> John. Is there anything that we can do about the vegetation that's on the fences and it's connecting to the light poles? >> Some of the um on water a um >> storm drain. >> Yeah, storm drain area. Your um

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retention pond. >> It's getting outrageous. And when they come over there and m they're mowing, they're not weed ei. So that's keeping it going for the poles and the stop signs and that retention point off of that.

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>> Go ahead by project by T second or first drive. >> Yeah, with that retention point. Um, I know right now with all this rain we've had, it probably can't get cleaned out, but soon as it dries up, can we get it

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cleaned out? I saw um little building about meetings. It's on a county stationary and one of the meetings that's in here.

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Do you know what? disappoint. >> You want to go to that? You be a good old flock camera show. Yes. One more. Um, I was notified and I haven't gone and

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looked at it, but on North Calhoun, north of High Street, somewhere on that route, there's a like Thank you for coming. I like to go on.

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We just thank you, Lord, and you take care of the story you do. We come to you tonight at this hour asking you to be with us as we make decisions to govern the city of period of the citizens. Help us to do the right thing, to make

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decisions that would be pleasing to you. In Christ's name I pray. Amen. >> Amen. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. >> I thank everybody for being here at the city hall. Can you hear me back there, okay? And I got a floor going on right now. Say go on, please. >> Councilor Bronze. >> Yes. >> Councilor Hampton. >> Here.

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>> Councilor Woodall. >> Councilor Landry. >> Here. Mayor Kitchen. >> Here. >> Regular uh calendar Santa Fe and regular Reba calendar only for the election in 2026 - 2026. I have a motion.

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>> Motion. >> Second. >> Councilor Bronze. >> Yes. >> Councilor Hampton. >> Yes. >> Councilor Landry. >> Yes. >> Mayor Kitchen. >> Yes. >> Do we have a senior request from the general public? have anyone here that wants to speak on something that is not

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on the agenda? >> Yeah, I did y'all. I didn't get here in time to get it in time to write it in there. >> Okay. >> [clears throat] [clears throat] >> Good evening. How are you guys? >> Good evening. Okay. >> My name is Emily Grant. This is Shane Williamson. I am the owner of the Salty

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Turtle Tap House here in town. Uh sorry about that. Uh Mr. Shane here is the owner of the building >> which I own in the same company. >> Um we uh will be opening uh here shortly in the next uh coming couple months. Um and so our

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proposal, and I'm sorry that apparently you can get it in time. Um you have a packet up is to propose uh is to be able to use the area that is under our outside awning um for the um consumption uh

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for outside seating for the consumption of food, beverage, and the controlled service of the air wise. Um so we're asking if we can utilize area under awning um for those things. Uh as you can see in the packet, um I have an site plan. It shows where the awning is. It shows that

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that therefore then leaves another additional 6 ft the other side of the awning outside walk for other bypassers or other people services whatever to utilize. Um and there's also a rendering of what that would look like to be partitioned off along with um

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the emergency exit. >> I don't think you've done this in various parts of the city and done thousands of times all over the country and all over the world. >> [clears throat] >> Really has. >> So basically what we've what we've done

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is we've got um When whenever we went to this zoning, we got approval to do the awning and awning we could meet the set back requirements for instead of maintaining the sidewalk usage for for the rest of the city. So that's what we've done there.

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Um gone through permitting, engineering. We've got everything plugged in. We're basically just trying to utilize the space. If there's a land lease deal that we can lease the space underneath the awning and uh get the responsibility

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you know, for us to to be responsible for it. I I know that those those types of things are very common in in other cities and counties and what not. I don't know. I don't think it's that difficult but I thought that's what we're asking for. To be able to utilize the space that was

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granted to us to to use. >> And therefore assuming liability for that area and whatever happens under it. Yeah yeah. Is this operation hours? >> [clears throat] >> This part of the city property outside of the walls of the building.

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>> Right away. >> Got you. >> [clears throat] >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes, sir. >> In to be in compliance with ordinance, I've got a couple of comments. Um first of all, I'm I'm not opposed to this in any way. I think if we're going to do it and

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allow it, we need to do it moving forward so that we afford everybody the same opportunity. Um there's a couple of options and of course we'd want to run it by the city attorney. I think the first option that would work the best would be [clears throat] to

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lease that section of sidewalk to them. But you would also have to have an ordinance that allows it because our ordinance now is very specific and strict. If it's outside the licensed premises, it's an open container. Those tickets are $250 apiece or an

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arrestable offense. But you would have to create that ordinance to allow it. >> Correct. >> So, the other thing um that we may need to research is Florida law does not allow anyone with open container outside of a licensed premises.

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But if you lease it and you have it fenced, that's part of your licensed premises. Correct. So, that would allow that. >> And as a court of statute. >> I'm I'm I'm in support of this. I think I think to bring business and foot traffic to downtown would not be an issue. I think we need to do it in such

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a way that we keep it legal and we afford others the same option if they want to do something very similar. Um so, I would suggest, of course, speaking with the city attorney, creating an ordinance that it will allow would allow this and enter some kind of lease agreement

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to allow it to happen. So, that they would be in violation of Florida law. >> So, if we were to [clears throat] lease it and have a lease, would that keep us from being a liability? So, if anything happened in that area, we wouldn't be in liable. >> With with my limited knowledge on that specific subject, you know, I I I'm a

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little bit on the legal aspect. I know I know trespassing. I know no But I think if it's a lease, they assume liability in the lease or if you prepare the lease in such a way as they assume it and it falls under that agreement. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Absolutely. Yes.

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>> Is it included in the state license that you need? Yes. All right. Yes, as long as it's under part of our very light, Mr. Attorney, is it as good as me? >> Yes, BPR and ATF are >> Is it allowed? >> on on board that where the lease

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>> Yes. Mhm. Yes. >> That was included in the plan that we gave all of them. >> Yeah, basically we have to show the delineation line of of anywhere um that someone would consume alcohol, eat, drink, anything. So, ABC has to sign off of it as long as we get the as long as,

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you know, we're approved by them. The approval per they'll sign off of it, but there's a delineation line for any type of consumption in or outside of the building at all. We have to show all those boundaries.

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>> What kind of type of food? >> What type of food? Um It's um we've we've got a menu proposes. It's basically American style food, so um for

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Well, no, it's a it's a full-blown kitchen so we are um you know, it's going to be a lunch and dinner menu. >> Can I ask a question outside of this as well? >> Yes. So, it'll we propose a

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a good size of the building for for a kitchen and it'll be if you could compare it to I know it says tap house, but if you could compare it to some of these local eateries like a Chili's or an Applebee's or something like that that have beer and wine within the establishment,

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but they're more focused on on a food. It's it's it's just as much as an eatery as it is a serving of wine as well. With with with no liquor license. >> So, something like Wingstop. >> Yeah, Wingstop. Absolutely. >> Buffalo Wild Wings.

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>> Buffalo Wild Wings, yeah. >> Much bigger variety, yeah. >> Yes, yes, yes. Uh but um yeah, we're we're as as much of a like you said, a restaurant as we are a tap house as well. The other location I was in it kind of limited what I could do. I had to pick a

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focus uh therefore the name. The new building allows for this first. >> Yeah, so we we we've definitely redid the Viking stuff um, and we've expanded the kitchen and the dining space. The it's the a small piece of it is a is

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a sit-down bar. But, there there will be food served at the bar. It'll be very very fam- family friendly, um, and it's primarily dining space. And and we've got proposed for our license is is 100 seats

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for for you know, for for dining space. >> Mr. Mayor? >> Yes, sir. >> I don't know if anybody remembers, but years ago, not in the downtown area on city property, but Papa John's was located in that shopping center down on Dixie, they had an outside eating and

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drinking section of that that was cordoned off underneath that canopy there. Um, so it's allowable under law, um, but the only the only part that that is the rub in this is it's city property. I think at least for them to allow them to do it is the key to that. >> And and I have another building that

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we're we're going to do next after this that we want to propose the same type of same type of, um, program with that. It'll be a little bit little bit larger space, um, outside because the sidewalk just lends itself to do that. >> Okay.

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>> So, we if this works, um, I think we have another space that would that would really really be utilized well for the community. >> I'm on board as long as we're doing it in the right right direction. As long as everybody's getting on the chance if they want to do the same type

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of thing with the sidewalk, I'm on board with it. We want to eat the jobs for people in more places to eat. So, yeah, I'm all in support for it as long as we do it the right way. >> You want to limit it to the downtown business district or citywide? >> ordinance >> I believe it should be all but straight

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across the across the board. >> Yeah, I mean >> Yes, ma'am. >> I think it's really a I would turn it down. >> No, I'm not saying I'm saying when we get ready to get it from them, where I'm okay with it, but that >> I've already talked to her about it.

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Okay. We're all on board. We're going to give it one more time to look into it to see what our options are, but I think that's a city wide order to take care of it all right here right now. >> Yeah, shouldn't take Shouldn't have to get a city wide order to ban it or to send it to somebody or something. It's already done. Somebody already did this. >> They're out there.

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>> Yeah, we have it. >> Yeah, Lake City has one. I think Madison has it as well. >> So, so quick question. Um if if we can't get this done in a time um that we open, what are we able to use

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the space as as it sits now today? >> I think with the lease itself, you can use it for anything except the the open drinking outside. Okay. I think you know, just of course you know, the attorneys I know that as long as there are no alcohol outside, we would not have any enforcement force to freeze it down

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there. >> Yeah, tables outside about down the street. >> Yeah, basically you know. >> And and and this is a spin and this is a process of a question. So, if they they they approved us to put the awning in, we passed engineering, we passed code, passed inspection. So, we just want to

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make sure that we're clear on what we can utilize the space. I mean, obviously they gave it to us for a reason, so it's not just a walk under and we we showed that we proposed that. So, we just want to make sure that we're clear that we're able to utilize the space until we get some further um

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conception for the alcohol. >> I'm just thinking with city manager, as [clears throat] long as the fence doesn't go up, I don't think there's issues. The tables can be out there. You're not cornering off this street for your use. Okay. I think that would be all right until you get to decide or we can get the other stuff taken care of. >> Okay.

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>> And that's a council decision that so >> Okay. >> We could have a draft by next week and I would play. So, we do it over. and a commitment on that. >> Okay. >> Yes, they are. >> Yes. >> You can close that. >> And really two meetings you can have the ordinance passed.

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>> Yeah. >> Which I have a public [clears throat] hearing? >> [laughter] >> Question of the town. >> Working hard on it. >> Thank you. That's good. >> Absolutely. >> The The hooks should be in next week, so that's going to be a big within the next week or so, so I don't

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know. Going to be a big puzzle piece that's that's finished up, so and that's that's someone else doing that, so we're just kind of waiting on them. >> And of course, we'd like to be able to go into a reconstruction phase to do any construction necessary, you know, so that's not a liability once we do it,

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but we're doing more construction. But of course, we want to put it in place with them. >> Here you go. >> Next year they'll >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> And while I'm going to bring that in our budget, I'm sitting on these things that

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someone needs to handle. Here again, that one we're going to finish our TVs. >> Okay. >> Moving on to general business, agenda item 6A, Council to discuss proposed budget for the fiscal year 2026-2027.

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Council will take any action they deem necessary. >> All right. The only change that was made is the 3,000 we took out of the Council's travel or training, I guess. >> Yeah, the garbage cans out of capital outlay

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just to operate, but that wasn't there with any money. >> And everything going on here with the bathroom. You know, I have to bring that to the church. >> Try and get >> But it's taking a >> Good. >> Page 21.

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>> What you find? English. What you find? What you find? Find the not number. >> Black jetter truck. Black jetter truck. >> We have two grants. >> Black. >> We have two grants for them. >> That is correct. >> We have two.

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>> I hope. You're not going to vote two. >> I don't think we I mean that's I'm going to try to get the USDA one changed to something else. >> [clears throat] >> We're working on that USDA one for 3 years. They finally said yes after I got

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a state program report. >> It was We're still waiting on the state. >> We are. And on liability insurance, worker's comp. >> From the state, you got to play with some increases. >> I estimated what I thought, but I don't have the

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final numbers from the state. >> Any today, David? >> I I so. They It says August 2026. So, hopefully we should They you Last month it said July. They So, maybe they moved it

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here. >> John, did you all I can't remember that cuz I went on cruise and everything. Did you get a lot of day contract between the the women's club in the city to release all that on the grounds? Do you remember what they were Was it a

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painting or was it a dog? >> I don't know what it was. >> A dog. Okay. Can we get an update contract for that? >> It's fine. >> Okay. >> It's fine. >> The tables wiped out according to the agreement. >> Yeah. I don't I don't recall ever receiving a dollar from them.

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>> Yeah, not with us. >> And I mean that's the thing with the boys and girls club. They ran out of their patience. For so many years, like 99 years. >> And they they paid it up 99 years. >> Okay. So, you don't owe >> They don't owe them. Yes. >> Okay. Look, or or we just want to make sure

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because the ordinance told me years about that. The contract had ran out. >> I thought >> And we needed to renew it. >> I thought they were working on something. >> I hope I hope they're working on something. >> I thought they were. >> Yeah, maybe. >> She said she did.

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>> You know what I'm saying? If they continue to lease it, we have to update it. >> We talked about the women's club about the painting. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> The first agreement is 99 years. >> Okay. >> Cuz they paid 99 dollars. I think that's what it was. >> Okay. >> But it was It's already been paid. They don't pay it yearly. They did it all in one time.

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>> Okay. Is it supposed to be an updated contract? >> Mhm? >> Is it supposed to be an updated contract? >> Uh pardon me. >> Mrs. Gibbons home. >> All right. >> All right. Just to make sure that we got it on file. >> Okay. >> Is she coming tonight? >> She called me about an hour ago and said

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she was. Okay. is not resolution 26 26. >> Are you going to the next item? >> I >> The next one. >> Are we done with the budget? >> Are there any more questions on the budget?

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>> Yes, I think. >> Okay. >> How did it How did that happen? And will it happen again?