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Good evening everybody. It is Thursday, July 16th, 7:07 p.m. The Citywide Council on Special Education is starting their calendar and business calendar meeting for the month of July. Thank you everybody for for sticking in. Apologize

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for the delays. Um we'd like first the interpreters to introduce themselves and their services. Can we please start off with the Spanish interpreters, please? Thank you. You know what? That is

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Spanish interpreter, can you please introduce your service? I'm sorry. Mandarin, please. My apologies. Mandarin. >> Everyone. >> Good evening everyone. Thank you

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Thank you so much interpreters. Appreciate it. Rose, can we please do roll call? Good evening everyone. Um, Francesca is excused. Oh no. Is she online? Dr.

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Cindy Joanne present. Mark Anita R >> here. >> Maggie >> present.

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>> Susan Irene >> present. do have quarrel. >> Great. Thank you everybody and again for the audience and and council members and everybody else. Thank you for your patience. Uh we really appreciate that

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and we apologize for the delay. Um first calendar meeting topic is our 2627 meeting schedule review. Um, council members, there is a sample of there's

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calendar dates in your folders. Um, if you could please review them, would greatly appreciate that. August 6 does not work for me. It's my birthday. I won't be in a country. I'll come back

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into the 8th. >> So the we got multiple birthdays on the sixth. Uh happy birthday to both of you. Uh early um at our last meeting, the council agreed to combine the annual

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calendar and business on the 6th. It is in our bylaws that the annual meeting needs to be on the first Thursday of August which falls on the 6th. Traditionally, our calendar and business per our bylaws are on the 3rd Thursday,

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but the council last meeting voted to roll all three into August 6th. So, that's why the August 6th date is there. The next calendar date we have is September 17th.

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>> So the annual meeting to vote is the same day as the business calendar meeting this year. >> Sorry. You're going to have the election on the same day you do the business meeting. So

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the bylaws state that the the annual meeting is the first Thursday in August which is the 6th. So that is the first meeting that we have on August 6th. The council at our prior meeting in June

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decided they wanted to hold the calendar and business meeting after the elections of at the annual meeting. And so all three meetings are scheduled to go back to back to back. It was decided that mean there would not be a presentation

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um because there would be a lot. It'd be very difficult to do a full hour presentation or even a half hour presentation and get all three meetings done. There was concern by members that they were not going to be able to attend the third Thursday in August due to

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various reasons and was concerned we would not be at quorum as a result and so there was an a motion to move the calendar and business forward to August 6th. It was approved by vote and that's

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why we have all three on the 6th of August. So the challenge the main a couple of challenges we have in the schedule the Thursday the third Thursday in November happens to to conflict

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um and so the idea was to possibly move it to the 5th. Now the challenge with that is and really every Thursday in November is there's something going on. There's parent teacher conferences. There happens to be Thanksgiving. Um,

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and so the issue is for November, do we do it on a Thursday the 5th or the 12th or the 19th knowing there's parent teacher conferences? Those days, 26 of course is Thanksgiving. Or do we move it to a different day of

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the week so we can not be in I'll call it competition with parent teacher conferences. You stated earlier that you guys voted last month on all these dates. So my question is you only voted on one date. Is that what

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you did? >> We voted on August. September is falling on the third Thursday of the month. So there's no vote needed there. October falls on the third Thursday of that month. There's no vote needed there. The challenge becomes November is the first

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one where there's an issue of we've got parent teacher conferences on the first three Thursdays of the month including our bylaws date of the third Thursday of the month. The fourth Thursday of the month happens to be Thanksgiving. And so

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the issue is do we want to hold on the third Thursday of the month? Do we want to move it to a different day of the week i.e. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, or move it to a different Thursday. Um, and you know, it's really

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up to the council decide um what we want to do. If we don't vote on any of these states, we just default to our bylaws, which is third Thursday of the month. And where there is a holiday than our bylaws state, then we meet a day earlier. Where there's no

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holiday, so be the third Wednesday of the month. So if we do nothing today, we just default to the bylaws until we either vote at a future date or we just stick with with the bylaws date. But wanted to put it out there that October I mean

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sorry November is a challenge due to that. Um we also have a challenge in February with uh mid-inter recess. Um, and you know, so we need to really

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look at February. What do we want to move it up or not? Um, or are we going to hold it during the mid winter recess and knowing that, you know, a lot of people would ideally like to be away, but if that's what we're going to do, stick with our our

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bylaws of third Thursday. Um, that's how it is. And then March has the challenge on the third Thursday of again um some conflicts with parent teacher conferences and such. So you know we don't need to do any

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voting tonight if we don't want to but we just need to be cognizant that November date will come at some point. >> So the November 5th date that's not a third Thursday of the month. So, I'm asking a question. You said earlier that

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last month you guys voted I I assumed on the calendar dates because if the fifth is not a third Thursday, then it wouldn't generically be on this sheet. So, I'm just asking a question. Did did you vote on just one day last month or

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did you choose these date? Because the 11th is in the third, March is in the third um Thursday. So, these dates, the 11th for February the 11th for March the 5th for November came from somewhere. So

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I'm just trying to understand because I wasn't here in June. Okay. Dr. Sai, last month the council only discussed July through September. And because the bylaw says that we meet

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on the third Thursday, there were no conflicts with July. Well, we do have a conflict with September, but no conflict with um October. The voting really took place on for the August date. And since on the third Thursday, a lot of people

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were going to be out of town on vacation, they decided to have the annual meeting, business meeting, and calendar meeting on that first Thursday. So, but they didn't talk about anything from November on. These are just tentative dates.

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It's a 10. These are all Yeah. Yeah. I put them in because I looked at this. Yeah. I looked at this here. >> Yeah. >> Um, excuse. I'm raising I can't raise my hand to speak. Please. >> Joanne, go ahead. >> Um, Dr. And I um I just wanted to just

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piggyback off Rose said last month in the packet those dates was presented to us all those dates. So that's how those dates came to us and that was some of the questions that some of us new council members and returning council

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members had questions regarding as well. And some of the council members said they did not want to have a second meeting towards the end because they had family vacation. So some of the council members opted to say they will want to

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have one long meeting. Some of us was like, "Okay, no." But everybody was going to just sacrifice it and just have one long meeting because we didn't want counselors to feel that nobody was being hurt. But it was to us and some of us

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finding out for the very first time that the annual meeting is always done the first Thursday in August. So that was something that was said to us that has been done traditionally with the council. So Dr. Sam, is that something

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new to you or is that has been going on? Oh, I in the past we just normally have a day when we vote on all the dates for the calendar. So when I when he stated earlier that August 6 was chosen when

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you voted last month, I just assumed that you guys had already went through the calendar like we would normally do and whatever dates conflicted, you chose dates. So when he then later came back and said the 5th might be an issue in February, I mean in November and then

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February and then possibly September, I was confused because if you already put the calendar on the meeting and chose these dates because some of these dates did not con coincide with our normal meeting. I was a bit confused. Was there a meeting on just one month or was there

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a meeting on all the months? Because traditionally when we talk about the calendar, Rose would give us possible dates. We would all meet and decide which dates and I just thought that was the what happened. But clearly >> that was not what was happening. Only

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>> July through September was chosen >> and the annual meeting traditionally is on the first um week in August, but it doesn't always have to be. The same way you can vote to change another date, you can vote to change a date. I just assume that you guys already came up with that.

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Whatever you choose is fine. It's just >> we was trying to >> We're voting on dates that >> seemed solidified on this paper and to Rose explained that she just gave those dates. >> Yes. Yeah. No, that's why I just want clarification for you as well because you have been there. But no, those dates

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were just given to us and that was the same thing we asked. So, but they said y'all traditionally did it the first Thursday and members didn't want to have two meetings in August, but nobody wanted to go too far in the calendar. So, everybody said they would table to

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either this meeting or August meeting to revisit the calendar so everyone give people time to review it and see what they had going on. >> Thank you, Joan. So, so my question to you Mark is these dates that Rose has possibly picked, are we putting it on

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the floor for discussion or are we are we going to keep these dates or do we have another date in mind like for the November 5th? Do someone possibly have another better date that we pick or for February 11th or for September 17th? So, are we going to open the floor for

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discussion for that? Um, or did someone come up with ideas already? So, our draft meeting minutes that were distributed last week and are in our packets on page three talk about what we discussed last week. And so, page four,

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point four of the draft minutes. Since there are several conflicts with parent teacher meetings during the school year, the council will discuss the remainder of the schedule at the next meeting. So, that's what our what was decided at the last meeting to do today was to discuss

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dates. That's why Rose put 30 minutes in the agenda for today so we could talk about what dates make sense for everybody and that's why there's also the DOE calendar in in the packet as well. >> Okay. So I make a motion that we um

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choose the remaining dates for the calendar year um since no se you said October to June was not discussed at the previous meeting. November through June was not discussed at the previous meeting. So I make a

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motion that we have a dis we we uh approve the calendar for net for this current upcoming year. >> So you're I want to just make sure I understand. You mentioned there was a discussion but then you said you want to

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approve the calendar. Do we want to have the motion discussed first? You first make the motion, somebody has to second, then you open the floor for discussion and then at doing discussion, we decide whatever dates. Then after we decide whatever dates, you close the

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discussion and then we vote. Is that how it that's how it's always went, >> right? Want to do it? Just do it. >> So the motion

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sound the motion is to discuss the calendar right now. Yes. Okay. Is there a second please? Second. Motion to discuss the calendar. >> I second it. All in favor of discussing the future

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calendar November onward, please say I opposed, abstain. Okay, good. All right. So, the motion was approved to discuss the calendar for November onward. Um, the floor is open. Anyone wants to discuss the calendar dates, please do

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raise your hand. Virtual or real. Dr. Canton, please. >> Do we have a possible um I heard where Rose briefly say September may be an issue, too. Is that true? >> It's okay. Um, I don't I don't see an

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issue for a DOE conflict for September 17th. Um, am I missing am I missing something? What I recall from the meeting was we had November, March, November, February, March,

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um, and possibly April challenges. Um, but that's what I recall from the meeting last time. And again, there's possible dates in there. None of those are final until we discuss as a council.

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>> Heather, go ahead. >> Can we just go monthtomonth and figure it out? a suggestion from >> So again, September 17th. Do we have a concern about that? School starts on the 10th. That's only a week. This 10th of

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September, doesn't school start? >> Yeah. >> Right. So, it's only a week. I I don't have a problem with it, but I'm just asking. I know Rose briefly said it could be a problem. So I'm if it's no problem then is seven is the 17th fine.

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>> Okay. So October 15th is fine. I just want to make a general comment that um in the past we've always had our meeting on the third Thursdays of the month. And um I think that

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um we should try to stick to that as much as we can because it allows for consistency. It allows or like this year I feel like we it moves all the time and I I have to find out

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when our next meeting is. Um whereas before I always knew it was the third Thursday of the month and the only time it really changed was during if it fell during mid- winter break or Easter or the the spring break.

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>> Um and so I think there's value in sticking to the third Thursday of the month. >> I agree. >> That's and that's I have no problem if that's what council wants. That is perfectly good. The issue becomes the

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February February 3rd Thursday is the 18th and that is in the middle of midwinter recess. >> Okay. So, right. So, October 15th is the

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third is that the third um Thursday. So, November November 5th is not the third Thursday. So, what day is the third Thursday? the 19th. >> So the 19th is fine with us. The 19th is

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is a day that we're choosing. We we've had meetings on days when they've had open schoolhouse before. So that's not that's not a new issue. So November is still the same. Is that what we're saying? >> Um so I could understand before we would

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make adjustments because the parent teacher conferences were always in person, but now they're not. All the parent teacher conferences are virtual now and so people can log on to our meeting, they can log out for parent teacher conference and log back in. I don't think it's the same kind of

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conflict it posed in the past one. Hi everyone. Okay, so yes uh I think it's mixed. Um, some are virtual and some are in person depending on the UFT contract arrangement and the budget.

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>> But can I also say most of the people come online for our meetings. Is anybody in the room today? Usually they come online. So in the past we've had meetings. The truth of the matter is elementary school, middle school, and high school during the month of November

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all are on different weeks. So we we're still going to run into somebody else having a parent teacher conference on another week. So at this point I think the consistency of having the day that we normally have the meeting lets people know when the

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meeting is and if they choose to come they choose to come. I think changing the date can complicate things a little bit because you're going to still have a elementary school I think is the first week or >> and then middle school is

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>> right. Thanksgiving there's something >> and I really think you should keep it on a Thursday versus another day because it's going to confuse people. Then you don't want to front into conflict with other meetings that people may want to

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attend like the PEP or other councils have u meetings that other families want to attend. It's up to you guys. If anyone else have ideas, I think this is the time to speak. I'm comfortable keeping it at the third Thursday. It's better for me and my

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little brain. >> So I guess Thursday it is December 17. Okay. >> Is there any other discussions about any of the dates or are we just saying third Thursday for everything that includes midwinter break? We will be here during

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mid- winter break in March. >> Let's check online. Joanne, do you have a problem or any of the members online have a problem with the the the Thursday of November 19th? That's the normal day we would do it. Can you raise your hand and say something? >> As of now, I don't have a issue with it

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because it's kind of hard to look at it. I'm trying to juggle that in the DOE. It would have been helpful if we was given the calendar along with the DOE calendar together and I didn't expect for us to go through the calendar like this but um

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>> we do have the calendar here. We all I'm not sure if you >> when do the kids go to um start their winter um Thanksgiving break like >> we're only in the month of November. The only thing that happens in November is pgiving conference Thanksgiving.

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>> Yeah, that's what I said. But today's and that's >> Thanksgiving is the 26th and 27th. That's >> the following week. Okay. So, yeah, I'm fine. I have no problems up until November. I'm good. >> All right. So, November, we're looking third Thursday.

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>> In December, the third Thursday of December would be the 17th. That's what's currently listed per bylaws in there. We already asked the council. You we went to the >> I've posted the calendar online, the DOE

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calendar. >> Thank you. Hey, Susie, go ahead, please. Susie, >> sorry about that. I hope you guys can hear me. A little bit of playing around right now and apologies for not being able to be there in person with

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everything that's going on um with the health and safety warnings. But um mainly what I wanted to do is I wanted to ask a quick question because I know there was quick discussion about August 6.

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Is there I I don't I just want to make sure that I'm understanding everything that's being said are August 6 is still when the um annual meeting will be taking place right for the elections. >> August 6 is the annual meeting followed by the calendar meeting followed by the

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business meeting. All three on the same date in August. Yes. Nothing's changed. Okay. No, I just I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure. So, we're leaving it as August 6. There's not going to be a secondary meeting. It will remain as it was um discussed. And I'm not

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>> there's been no discussion about changing or voting on August 6th at this point. >> Okay. This was just a discussion about whether or not the third Thursday of each month moving forward will remain.

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Okay. I just wanted to make sure it fine. >> Okay. Thank you, Susie. Joanne, you have your hands up. >> Yes. Um, I just want to circle back to something and thank you. Um, Lupe, she put it in the chat. Um, this is

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something I have brought to several council members and I know it has came up on several occasions that um, we share a meeting date every third every third Thursday of the month with D75 and we

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service that population and we work together. Um, we know that our tenants will work greatly and improve if we could work together with them. So, I'm not sure if this is something that we can look at. um not sure in the bylaws

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meeting or as a council in general um about seeing if we can see who can work together with possibly um revisiting um meet and date because um they have a large majority of

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stakeholders that comes to their meetings and we have presentations and our presentations will definitely benefit them and I know it's definitely a big conflict So I know this is something that has definitely have came up not just today

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but this conversation has came up prior as well. So I just want to bring that to the table as well as far as our meeting date conflicts with other stakeholders in the community. So um I know Dr. Sai brought that up as well with moving

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dates and stuff around when we're um conflict with other stakeholders. Dr. Kim >> Joanne, that issue of changing our actual meeting date needs to go to the bylaws committee to discuss what those dates are. Then we present it back to

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the council and then we would vote on a different date. What I think is on the floor as discussion now is just choosing the dates as a current bylaw state. If we want to change the date at our bylaws meeting, we can put that in and then

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present all the things you're saying back to the council. the committee comes back to the council and say these are some of the things we want to change in the bylaws and then once we do make those changes then that date comes in effect I think after the following

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meeting or something of that sort but currently I don't know that we just change our meeting date without vis we're visiting the bylaws >> no no that has to defin No you're 100% right no we definitely have to visit the bylaws but I'm just putting it out there

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because this conversation has came up and I'm just not sure if anyone else has thought about that while while we're sitting here looking at the calendar with conflicts and different things. So I'm just throwing that out there as we discussing it. So that's just something

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that we can think about. So when we do meet for bylaws and different things, maybe someone else may have other thoughts behind it or a suggestion or other things. That's the only thing I'm asking especially since we have two meetings in one.

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I would like to call a point of order so that we can get back to our discussion. >> Okay, there's a point of order out there. All right, so the motion and agreed to was to discuss the future meeting dates. Obviously, if there's a bylaw meeting, we'll have that in the

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bylaws committee, then that can be brought forth to the council. So, porno has been made. All right. Are we done discussing November at this point and move on to December? Okay. See a lot of nods in the heads. December 17th is the

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third Thursday of the month. Unless anyone has objective, we'll move on to January. Any objections to third Thursday in December? I don't see anyone. Any Susie, your hands up. Is that for a new topic or is that just from the prior discussion?

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>> Uh sorry, my hand was up from the prior discussion. But um now that we've mentioned uh December and the having it I guess the third Thursday of the month, we are getting

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pretty close to the holidays. So I'm just wondering if that's something that's going to fly. Is that all right? >> I think there's really not a lot of good choices other than keeping on the third Thursday. It's a month before um before

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Christmas Eve Christmas Day happens to be on the 25th. There's a lot of other holidays. Kowanza's on the 26th. >> I think that's probably 17th makes the most sense to stick with the third Thursday of the month in December >> unless there's objections from anybody.

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I agreed to keep it at the 17th of December. Yeah we also have to keep in mind in the um the winter recess that school closed from the 24th to the January 1st. So, I do

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agree that we should keep it at um December 17th. All right. So, moving on to January. January 21st happens to be the third Thursday in January. We do not have any

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conflicts. MLK is the 18th. There's regent on the 26th to 29th, but nothing else. So, 21st be Thursday. Is any objections in January keeping third Thursday? Okay. So, I do not see or hear any objections. Let's move on to February.

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February the 3rd Thursday of the month is the 18th. February 18th is the third Thursday of the month. That happens to be in the middle of midwinter recess. Midwinter recess is Monday the 15th through Friday the 19th. So, do we want

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to keep the February 18th third Thursday or do we want to move it? >> Uh, can we move to February 25th? >> There was a a discussion about moving it to the 4th, Thursday, the 25th. That would be the week after mid-winter

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recess. >> Discussions on that. Joan's got her hand up. >> Yes. I'm ask I'm requesting if we can look at possibly moving it to the week prior, >> not the week after.

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>> So Joanne's saying the 11th. Is that correct Joanne? >> I'm sorry. >> Joanne, you're saying the 11th is is what you're proposing? >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. So, we have an 11th, we have

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a 25th. Any other discussion points >> in sync with the bylaws? I would like to keep it the 11th of February, but I would also like Ron to join. Uh, I'm sorry. I was looking at the uh

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meeting schedule, the proposed, and it says February 11th, and I'm I'm frankly comfortable with both, but I would like to make sure we have quorum. >> So, we need to decide 11th or the 25th. Is there a preference from council

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without voting? We'll vote in a moment if there's a motion, but is there a reason to go with the 11th or the 25th or 25th over the 11th? Well, no, they have an issue. They were just bringing up possible dates. I'm okay with the February 11th. I just

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asked whether we can move to 25th. >> Okay. So, it sounds like everyone's okay with February 11th. We'll we'll pencil that that date in for a vote after we have this discussion. So, let's pencil in February 11th. That would be a one

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change from the bylaws. Next date is March. March the third Thursday of the month would be the 18th. March 18th. March 18th is a evening parent teacher conference for high schools K to 12 and

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6 to 12 schools. But based on our prior discussion we had, we want to stick with third Thursday other than holidays. I'm seeing some nodding of heads. Is there any objection to the 18th of March, our bylaws date? I don't see any. So, we'll keep that on

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March 18th per bylaws unless objection. I don't see any. Maggie, go ahead. So if if folks like if there's going to be parent teacher conference, my only concern around those days and I and I

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get the buys thing, but my concern is that we won't have quorum cuz if people have to go to the parent teacher conferences, they won't be able to be here. So that's my concern, but we can keep it as is.

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>> My question with that is if parent teacher conference is in November, we have the same issue. you just voted to keep that date. So, what's the difference between March and November? >> The concern remains the same for both dates for me because it's the the

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problem we've been having these past few months has been quorum. So, I just want to, you know, put it to the council that it's it's it might come up that we might not have quum for those dates because of the parent teacher conferences. I I don't understand why all of a sudden

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parent teacher conference is an issue. It has it. We have as a council always have had a meeting on that date. So we know that some people will come and some won't. I don't November is no other day to do it unless you change the date. And

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so I'm not sure the question for the council is anybody here not able to come on that day. Do anyone have an elementary school student that you're not going to be able to make it in March or you can't get on virtually? >> Well, I for one don't know yet the date

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of the um because our my my kids uh calendar is different for the parent teacher conference, but I know that some are going to have to miss that date. I just there's some people that are not here. There's some people that will have to miss it. We just we might not have

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quantum for those months just for us to kind of like be considerate of that. >> Heather, go ahead please. >> I just want to say that we struggle with quorum when there isn't even parent teacher conference. So I think this discussion about ORUM is actually about

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other underlying issues and really like the parent teacher conference is just a symptom of a larger issue of um people being able to come to the meetings in person that I think we should have in a different discussion. Um, I also

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hear you like parent teacher conferences do conflict, but I believe that in the spirit of our bylaws that that if you had to go to your parent teacher conference, you would be excused for that. >> And that's not one of the official

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chancellor rules. So that would have to be voted by the council in its entirety, which certainly has its prerogative. That being said, the account I think it's been pretty clear from feedback here. We want to keep on third Thursday.

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So that was March 18th. April 15th is the third Thursday of April. Oh, I'm sorry, Cindy. No, Cindy's got her hand up too. Cindy, go ahead. And Joanne, >> as for the teacher conference, uh, as a

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parent, to me, it will be a problem to present to have the council meeting here. Joanne's next and then Dr. Kent will be after. Joanne, go ahead. Thank you, Cindy. Okay, so

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this has been historically a issue and like Heather said and everyone says, everyone needs to figure out their personal calendar calendar when it comes to parent teacher conference or other

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things and see if you able to work it out with your school officials or whatever. But for us to sit here and say we going to move it because of this this this or we going to get excused and that like Mark says we already back and forth

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with what's approved and what's not approved. Um absence and stuff like that and we're trying to get quorum. If it falls on parent teacher conference, it falls on parent teacher conference. Last year we didn't move it or was it

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moved for parent teacher conference? I'm just asking a question. Last last year school term, did we move it for parent teacher conference? >> We we did move some dates to the parent teacher conference this past school year. Yes. >> Okay. And is that also and was that also

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did we follow govern what was in the bylaw when we moved those dates? >> We did follow the bylaws because the bylaws allow the council to change dates with a majority vote. So we did not stick on the third Thursday in every

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month due to conflicts in parent teacher conference last year were reasons we did change that being said it's a new year it's a new thought process and there's no problem staying with what's in the bylawside that's all >> no you're right and I'm just asking that

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question is because also we have that then we going to have different things maybe added to the calendar holidays or different other things that may be going on in that month and we may not be able to move up and down and then we'll see that we are running backto back on

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meetings. So if we right now got all the way up to March and we want to take a break for a second, I think we need to just maybe take a break and just look where we at or continue. But I think we need to just

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try to stay in a line as much as we can because we're going to be getting into testing season and then that's going to be a whole another issue and then it may be other issues that may turn out throughout the school year and which we have to be prepared and ready to be proactive as a council to work together.

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So we have to take all that in consideration as well. So I want us to be flexible and know where we stand as well because we got coming up on testing season regions and all that as well. So we have to be a little flexible in some

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areas. >> Thank you for your thank you for feedback on that. Um so March 18th sounds like we're okay staying on third Thursday of the month for March 18th. Correct. Okay. April 15th is the third Thursday.

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It happens to be tax day. But but uh in terms of DOE conflicts, I do not see any DOE conflicts on the DOE schedule. So unless there is something the April 15th, any objections

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>> Mark then Joanne 61st then Joanne. >> No, you said Dr. and I was after me and I didn't want us to forget that she had something to say. So, >> I apologize Dr. Kent Joan. Thank you, Dr. Kenton. I apologize. >> I apologize about calling you the wrong

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name. I'm sorry. >> Okay. Um, Dr. Kenny said, "Let's move on." Um, so Susie, you have your hand up. We're talking about April 15th. Yes, I I do. I actually just I I I do have a concern. Of course, you know, listen, uh

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I wasn't able to um make it in there today, but I think that as a council, I mean, meeting 12 months out of the year, it can be a lot for members, especially um we're showing up to every single

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meeting. It does become a lot and things do happen. Well, I mean, if it wasn't air quality today, of course, I would be there. But it it is something for us to consider. And I heard Joanne just speaking on that. Whether it's the December month, I know that um most

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councils it's not 12 months out of the year that they're meeting. Even if it's 10 months, it would be something a little bit more productive for our council because there is burnout. It is a lot to um to be there in person and um

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whether you're fighting traffic or you're on the uh train, whatever it is, it can become a lot and it c it can become very easy for council members to uh feel even um some type of resentment

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even when we're dealing with um many members that are missing uh an extensive amount of meetings that becomes very taxing and it's not fair and it's uh I hear Heather when she's saying there's underlying issues and that is that is

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correct. So I think it's important that we're very transparent and honest with our communication and that we have to be fair to all members across the board. >> Dr. Canton has a hand up. Go ahead.

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Um, so it was said to the camper should be on. Everybody's camper has to be on when they're online. But I I want to just say something. I've been sitting on this particular council for four years. Four

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two two cycles or three almost three cycles, right? So that's almost six years. I sat on the one in district five for seven years. So, I've been a member of this council for 15 years in some capacity. >> When you read the law and you read what

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the rules are, the sign up is the sign up. The work is the work. We meet every month. Every council does that. So, when you decided to become a member of the council that comes with it, >> now life happens to all of us. I missed this last year a lot of days due to

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sickness and doing my son's mental health. >> Okay? So, I'm not saying or being insensitive to the fact that people have personal issues. If you're resentful to be here, then you need to give the seat up and give it to someone who >> So, I'd like to say something.

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>> Excuse me. I'm speaking. I got the floor. You don't have the floor, Susie. >> I have the floor. >> I have the floor. And allow me to finish. I let you ask. >> So, you need to allow me to speak. >> Okay. So, as I said, the rule is the

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rule. It's 12 months. We do this every year. And yes, life happens to all of us. And some days it's harder to get here than others. But if this is what we signed up to serve New York City families, then this is what we signed up. And so to take almost 40 minutes to

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do a calendar is absurd when there's so many other things we can do. Every year there are dates that conflict. We change the dates. We move forward. It's nothing underlying happening. is no one else doing anything. If you object to a date, then you should stay the date you object

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to. But 12 months a year is what it is and it's not going to change because that's what the law says. If you don't like it, do something else. >> All right. >> I'd like to >> Thank you. Susie, your time's up. Let's

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move on. You had your chance to speak. >> I didn't speak yet because she asked me to turn my camera on and this is something that's very >> I didn't ask you. That's what they stated here. >> So, let me just say this because I think it's very important because I haven't missed a meeting yet for me to have to

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give up my seat when I'm there every single month from the time that I was. >> Mark, I thought you closed the minutes. >> No, no, no. >> Because no one asked her to give up her seat. Now, if you and me want to have a discussion, you can call me and do that. >> But not now. >> I'm actually addressing the council.

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>> Dr. Please. very important to address when you have dedicated members that are showing up and consistent and communicating with the council respectfully and not interrupting and interjecting. I think it's very

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important on how we conduct ourselves professionally, but I think it's very important if you cannot serve and you are not show >> Susie, we're talking about the April 15th date. That's the only thing we're talking about right now. also ask that

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we open up the meeting to discuss the calendar. But maybe >> I would like to call a point of order to bring us back to the discussion, please. >> But maybe it's not necessary to discuss the entire calendar if we're now talking that it's taking 40 minutes to do that. Maybe it's not. >> Susie, we're at point of order. You need

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to please stop speaking. We're at point of order. Okay. Again, we are talking about the April 15th date. We're not talking about anything else. So Joanna, if you have you have your hand up about April 15th. Is there an objection to April 15th? >> I wanted to say it seemed like we keep

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getting off track and I'm not sure if I would like to put a motion on table. Maybe if we can go into executive session. I put a motion on the table >> there. There is a motion to go to executive session. We are currently in a

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a a discussion. If you're if I guess look there's a motion. Is there a second? I don't >> second it. >> Yep. And and Dr. Kent's correct. You have a motion, but we we have to finish this discussion first and we're still on

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this discussion. So after this discussion, if you Joanne, you want to have that motion, that's fine. But the discussion right now is on April 15th. So, is there an objection from council on April 15th or can we talk about May 20th?

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Okay, let's May 20th is the third Thursday in May. Is there a problem with the third Thursday in May? Okay, June 17th is the third Thursday in June. That would be the last meeting of

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this 2-year term. Is there an objection or problem of June 17th? Hi. Oh, there we go. I do see June 17 being a bit of an issue just because it falls right smack dab in the middle of regions and I've noticed that a lot of

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regions exams are on the 17th or the 18th. So, something to consider. Yeah. No, it's it the challenge. We've we've had meetings during regions before and it's it's tough, but you know, I I

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don't think it make it's up to the council decide what they want to do obviously, but we've had meetings on region days in the past and we've had quorum. So, all right, that is the last date. Is there any anyone have a problem with

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June 17th through Thursday or is there a motion to vote on the dates for the remaining of this term? But we need a motion to vote. Good. Dr. Canton, go ahead. >> So, I have a question about voting on

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the dates. The dates stay the same. The things we vote on is the dates that we have to change. Am I correct? Because the bylaw says if we meet every third Thursday, we don't need to vote on those dates. We just need to vote on a date that we have to change. Is that correct?

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>> All right. >> Yes. The only date we'd be voting on based on feedback of council is the February date because that is the 18th would be midwinter recess. The council discussed moving it to February 11th.

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That would be the only vote that would be necessary. Again, February is a ways away. If we don't want to vote tonight, we don't have to. But we're here today. It makes sense just to get it done and get our calendar locked so everybody is in lock step. >> Um you said that we don't have to vote

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today because I did make a motion earlier to vote and so are we going to just vote for the day or not? That's why the discussion was had. >> That's the point is if we're any discussion then we can move to vote and Rose can do roll call at that point. So,

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is there a motion to end discussion? >> I motion to end the discussion. >> There's a second. All in favor? Opposed? Extensions. Okay. So, Rose, the motion

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was for the dates. The date we're talking about is February 11th. It is the second Thursday in February due to the midwinter recess on the 18th. So, a vote for yes means we're changing it to the 11th. A vote for no or abstension

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means we're keeping it at the 18th. I make a motion that we vote on the February 11th date to um the February calendar meeting to be changed from February 18th to February 11th. >> Okay, that's the motion. The 18 the 11th

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versus 18th. >> I second. >> All in favor? opposed abstensions. Okay. Any and Rose, do we need to do a roll call for this or can we need a roll

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call, right? Yeah. >> Okay. Dr. Dr. Sai, Cindy, Joanne. >> Hi, >> Heather Mark.

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I really >> the motion pass. >> Thank you, Rose. Joanne, you had a >> I think we have to retake the vote because the people that are on remote weren't on camera.

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>> Okay. So, Rose, you'll have to re for the people who are online, they need to make sure they're on camera so their vote counts. Um otherwise they're nullified. >> Joanne

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Susie. >> Hi again. >> Joanne. Joanne, we need your vote to do that. We need you to turn on the camera to vote. Rose, right now it's an extension. No vote.

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The motion still passes at at this point. So, the date change is just the February 11th. Um, all others stay on our bylaws of third Thursday of the month with the exception of going

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forward from from September onward, October onward. >> Okay. And I'll send out the updated schedule to everyone. >> Thank you, Rose. All right. Next on Oh, Joanne, I'm sorry. You you had mentioned something earlier. Do you want to bring

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that up, please? Okay. I I don't hear you, Joanne. >> Hold on. I'm sorry. Can you repeat that? >> Yes. You had mentioned something. Well, two things. One, were you voting on the motion on the dates or not?

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>> Um, yes. I'm prepared to vote. >> Okay. You need to turn on the camera to vote. >> Sorry. Right here. I was sweating. >> Okay. So, Rose, can you do choose? >> Joanne, your vote. >> Yes.

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>> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. And Joanne, you brought up something earlier. Do you want to bring it back up or not? >> Hold on. >> Yes. I'm sorry. Um I'm sorry. I'll just um Yes. I was um making a motion if we

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can um go into executive session. There's a motion to go executive session. Do you have a reason? We need a reason that that falls under executive session. >> Um, we um the reason I was asking for us to go into executive session because at

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the time of the at at the time of the event, I'm sorry, I can't see myself right now. Look like I don't see myself. um at the time of the event, it was a lot of back and forth and I think some things needed to just be discussed regarding um some

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underlining um issues that needed to be discussed um because it was a lot of back and forth and we already came back more than once about it's more than just the calendar more than just this. It was a lot of back and forth feedback about that. So,

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at the time of the back and forth and and the debating, that's why I asked, can we go into executive session? >> Okay. That's not a reason as far as I know that you can go into executive session. >> Okay. Mark, it was a at the time of the argument and the back and forth and the

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debating back and forth and it was getting heated. I asked if we can go to executive session so we could discuss what needed to be discussed so we could come back together as a council to regroup because right now council is fighting over friction who's here more

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who's here not and this that third we don't need to do that we need to get work done and that's why I asked can we go to executive session at the time but you said we wanted to finish off the motion at the time so since we finished off the motion things calmed down but at

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the time I bought the motion when things was getting heated and at the time my motion was secondary at that point. So that's why I asked because of what was going on the argument. >> No, I appreciate your feedback. Um it's

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not a valid reason to go into executive session. So it's it's move and as you said we're we've moved on. So thank you. >> It's not moved on. Okay. If it happens again, Mark, I want to see if we're going to go into session or not because I don't the night is young. That's all I can say. It already happened twice, the

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arguing. Let's see what happens. >> So, Joanne, we're double checking the law right now in executive session. If you can bear with us just a moment, everybody apologies. >> Sorry. Sorry, Mark. Can I be recognized for one second? >> Maggie, go ahead.

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So under the under our bylaws point of order, sorry guys, I'm just going to uh read the bylaw our bylaws uh for executive sessions. So executive sessions shall be held as needed to discuss matters that

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by law open meetings law section 105 upon a majority vote of its total membership shship taken in an open meeting and that's page five and then six. Pursuant to a motion identifying the general area or areas of the subject or

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subjects to be considered, a public body may conduct an executive session for the below enumerated purposes only provided however that no action by formal vote shall be taken to appropriate uh public monies. The public is not to be invited

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into executive sessions. So the matter the the the following um enumerated purposes for executive sessions are matters of individual privacy, medical, financial, credit or employment history of the particular person or corporation.

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Enter matters leading to the appointment employment promotion demotion discipline suspension dismissal or removal of a particular person. Matters which will imperil the public safety if disclosed. matters which may disclose the identity of law

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enforcement agency personnel or an informer. Information relating to current or future investigation of criminal offenses which will imperil effective law enforcement if disclosed. Discussions regarding proposed pending or current litigation, collective

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negotiations pursuant to article 14 of the civil service law. uh preparation, grading or administration of examinations or the proposed acquisition, sale or lease of real property property or the proposed acquisition of securities or sell or

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exchange of securities held by such public body but not only when publicity would substantially affect the value thereof. >> Thank you Maggie. In other words, we cannot go into executive session for for the reasons discussed. So we will we

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will move on. We are now at our agenda topic six which is public comment. So I invite anyone from the public to please raise your virtual hand and we will give you time to speak. So if you have a question, comment, concern, please feel

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free to raise your virtual hand. Thank you. Any public comment? I have a comment, but I can't figure out how to raise my hand. >> Go ahead, Amanda. >> Um, yes. So, I put it in the chat. I just wanted to know if anyone has heard

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from any of the summer rising sites about getting outside time. I know if it's uh hot weather or the bad air that we're having that the kids are not going outside, but I just wanted to make sure that other sites around the city do have

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outside time programmed for students. Amanda, I haven't heard any feedback either way, which I assumed was good. I know today the discussions from the chancellor's office came down about indoors due to the um smoke. Um and then

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last week there was indoor time due to the excessive heat. Um, so I know there was a few days we've had already where they've been mandated to be inside with the heat and smoke, but are you seeing hearing something that that's on those nine days people are not getting

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outside? Students are not getting out. >> Uh, so I was told that my particular child her uh cohort in the SEO or in the CBO is not scheduled for any outside time any days for the entire summer. And

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um it sounds kind of weird to me. So I was just checking to make sure other ones um had it or if it was some sort of new policy sharing something like that. Um and then I have one other comment about a different topic.

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>> Okay. Well, why don't you bring the other topic up and we can we can discuss after. Let Heather let Amanda finish her her comments. >> Amanda with your second topic. >> Okay. Um the second one was the SCA was doing a working group about the SCA

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process of how um projects move through the system. And one of the things that came up is that the SCA talks to the principal and has monthly meetings about projects that are ongoing. The SCA requests that the

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principles allow a parent leader to be at those meetings, either an SLT representative or a PTA representative. Um I haven't seen that at any of our schools in my district. Um so I just want to make sure that parent leaders that we are all aware that that is a um

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thing that we should be asking for at our schools and I'm done with my comment. >> Thank you. Heather was going to respond. Heather, go ahead please. Amanda, I if you want to reach out to us and we can um connect to the summer in

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the special education office about your school and the no outside time because um I know like my kid is getting related services at a summering site and when I was there that day, kids were going outside to play basketball and things like that. So, um I don't think there

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has been some kind of policy that says that they can't go outside. So, it sounds like it might be specific to the summarizing program at your school. So, if you can email us and then I can try and follow up. >> Thanks.

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>> Thank you, Amanda, for the feedback on on the outside. That's it's concerning. They should be going outside. >> And then your comment about the SCA. Appreciate that. It's a good reminder to all of us. >> Yeah. And I was just going to respond to

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uh Miss Amanda. Hi Amanda. Um I was just going to say that um you know I know with my boy school they actually um they had a a sk a programmed uh event that was actually scheduled for outdoor

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carnival and what they did was they actually cancelled it was supposed to take place today and uh and they're rescheduling it for next week Friday. So I think a lot of the schools and summer rising included might be taking little precautions because of the advisories

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and they really want to keep the kids safe. So I think that's why because a lot of parents are concerned and they have their children trying to tolerate wearing masks again and and people just kind of want to feel comfortable and feel safe at the same time. So, I I think like on Saturday things are going

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to rain. Things will slowly start to um hopefully return to normal very soon for all all the kids. But I think that's what they want to do. It's like more of a precaution. Probably not the entire summer though. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, no problem. Thanks for your question.

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>> Okay. Any other public comment interpretation lines? Any public comment there? Just to add to what Amanda Pit has raised, I think that this is a very specific question and to

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ensure you receive a timely response. Um there I'm going to be posting in in the chat the email that you can write to the summarizing email. I'm not sure if you have this or not, but I would like for you to reach out for them to them and

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then um take it from there. Um yeah, because this sounds like a very time-sensitive issue. >> Thank you, Anita. All right, interpreters, any public comment on your lines? Okay,

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don't hear any. Um, no more hands are up. Is there a motion to adjourn the calendar meeting? We have the business meeting coming up next. Motion to adjurnn calendar, Heather. Go ahead. Hi, everyone. I'm putting it in the

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chat. Um the CCSE has put a uh we've created a form in a survey on the air conditioning status and busing for the summer. Um we're having some website issues. So um please check your email

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because we will be sending it out a couple times a week and on extreme heat days um so that families can um fill out the form. Uh I will be checking the survey responses on the daily basis and we're escalating uh to OPT on a daily

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basis. Um if you uh fill it out, we highly recommend putting the bus company in the child's route number cuz then I can just escalate it right away without needing to check in on sharing um your students information with OPT. We just

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send them the list of bus companies and route numbers for them to check in into. Um, but if you don't know it and you fill out the survey, uh, we'll reach out to you individually to see if we can share your information with OPT directly

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to escalate. So, please fill it out. OPT has also asked me that um, to remind families um, we'll put the link in the chat as well to remind families that they should um, also fill out a support

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request um, through OPT. there's a you can call the the helpline or you can also um fill out their online support form um but they're asking for that as well so that they can track the issues in their system but please also reach

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out to us through our survey. Thank you. >> Thank you. And Lupe, you have your hand up. Lupe, go ahead. Welcome. >> Thank you. Good evening everyone. Lupe Hernandez, she her a pronouns. I am here on behalf of the New York City public

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advocates office and as a community organizer and education opportunity before Heather had shared uh I didn't well didn't realize you guys had a survey of your own so my apologies for overstepping by any means um but I hear that CCS survey is definitely geared

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towards immediate attention and ability to fix any um routing issues that are that are taking place over the summer. However, um I did put a survey that we are circulating as a public advocates office. We've been a part of the road to

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better busing coalition for some time and we are collecting data just on how it went espec especially given that many programs like Horizon Nest D75 and ESY which is extended school year does not

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begin until the day after the first day of summer rising and I can I will speak to you in just as in a parent capacity in this moment just sharing my own experience of my son being given a route and was picked up on that first day of July, which was the first day of summer

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rising, only to have received a phone call later that morning uh explaining that he arrived a day early and his program didn't actually start till the next day and I had to go and pick him up. So, um, wanting to know whether your

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bus has AC, did you have routing information, did you get your ride share codes, and if these things aren't taking place, we would like to be able to share um that feedback with OPT if if you are able to share that information with us.

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And thank you so much for the time. I appreciate it. >> Thank you, Lupe. And thank you for all your service. Lupe, for everyone who doesn't know, was a former CCSE member and been heavily involved in the community in so many different ways. So,

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thank you, Lupe. All right. Is there a motion to adjourn the calendar meeting? Again, we have business meeting coming up. Motion to adjourn. >> I make a motion to end the calendar meeting. >> Okay, we have a motion, a second. All in favor of adjourning the calendar

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meeting, please say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Abstensions. All right, we are adjourned from the calendar meeting. It is 8:22. Um, let's do 8:30.

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So, even though it needs a quick little break. So, 8:30 we will start up with the uh business meeting. Thank you everybody. Okay. Good evening everybody. It is Thursday, June 18th. It is 8:31. We are going to start our business meeting

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for Citywide Council on Special Education. So, Rose, can you please do a roll call? microphone. Dr. >> I'm here. >> Cindy

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>> present. >> Joanne >> present. >> Heather, >> I'm present. >> Mark, >> present. Anita >> present

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>> Maggie. >> Maggie will be right back. >> Susie >> still present. I think I got disconnected from the roll call the first time though. >> Is Irene back?

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We we're still at quarum. >> Okay, we are at quorum. Thank you everybody. And we still have our Spanish interpreters on Spanish interpreters. Would you like to please put your information in the chat box? And if you want to reintroduce yourself, we

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appreciate that. Thank you. Fore and announcement is complete. Thank you very much. All right, the first order of business is the approval of our meeting minutes. We have March, April, May, and June. We

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had some quorum challenges prior, so we're not able to move through them all. So, let's just go one at a time and we will vote one at a time on the meeting minutes. So, first one up is March 26th.

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March 26. Is there any any objections, any issues anyone sees regarding the March 26th meeting minutes that they want to bring forth with. If you need a little more time to look, please raise your hand. Let me know.

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Otherwise, we need a motion to approve if there's no issues with what's presented in front of you. So, I um Mark, I think it's probably important to say I know that when we were looking over the meeting minutes

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for the three months um that were presented, we were dealing with an issue and it was unexplained or inexcused absences and that's part of the reason why things didn't move forward. So I think that's important to make note

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because if we are passing meeting minutes and it's something that needs to be addressed. >> Okay, we're just looking at March 26th. Rose, you have Francesca listed as excused.

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So that was an excused absence. You got notice from Francesca? >> Yes. >> Okay. So that was an excuse per chancellor's by bylaws. So the issue is is there a motion to approve the March 26 mini meeting minutes?

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>> Well, I I don't think that was the only absence, was it? >> Susie, we're just talking March 26th. So the March 26 meeting minutes is what we're first talking about. The roll call has Francesca's excused. Rose said that

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it was excused to chancellor's regulations and then we have everybody else present with the exception of Dr. Kenton who is present virtually. So everyone else's is present. So is there an objection that you have or anyone else has to anything

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in the March 26th meeting minutes? Okay. If there's no objection, is there a motion to approve the March 26 meeting minutes? >> I make a motion that we approve the March 26 meeting minutes. >> There's a motion. Is there a second to

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approve the March 26 meeting minutes? >> I second. >> I'm sorry, Susie, you said something. Were you seconding? >> Yes. You know why? Because I think there was just an issue. I think um when presenting oneself on

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>> Susie, are you are are you seconding or do you have another discussion? >> No, it was I guess a our question or discussion before moving forward was just to find out >> finished discussion for March 26th. We'll have an open discussion for April.

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But right now we have a motion that was by Dr. Canton. We had a second by Heather. So now we're voting on the main minutes for March 2 for March 26, 2026 and then we'll discuss April, May, June.

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So all in favor of the March 26, 2026 as presented, please say I opposed. Abstension. Okay. So March 26, 2026 is approved. We

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are now on to Thursday, April 16th, 2026. Um, if everyone can look that over and if anyone has any comments, please bring it up. Okay. >> Yeah. So I guess my um question is when

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our members are actually on you know logging on into a meeting virtually uh and they're logging on just for the last five minutes that still accounts as

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being present for the meeting for a calendar meeting and business even with the business meeting not I just want to make sure we are >> you're bringing up a little bit

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of it and let me >> the question was does it matter how long you log on or attend in person I think that's the gist of it and the answer from face based on state law is as long as you're there for any time at all

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during that meeting you are counted as present. There is no time specific in state law. So if you're there for a second during a calendar or business, you're present as long as you're there for 5 hours from a state law

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perspective. So there is no difference. Um so if that's your question and the answer is doesn't matter how long you're here as long as you're here. And we have our face representative nodding her head an affirmative. Thank you face representative. I appreciate

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that. Okay. So Susie, any further comment or anyone else any further comments about the April 16? Maggie, >> sorry. Just wanted to add that um we had

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a discussion in length about absences with uh our L at our last um base check-in meeting with Tamika and she went over you know all those questions and what constitutes a valid excuse and all the scenarios. So we had that

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discussion with her um what is what was it? I don't even know what what date it was, but that last check-in meeting, we had that discussion. >> Thank you. And and that discussion was open to all council members with with face. It was the monthly check-in that

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face has with all council members um which they initiate. Um so again, April 16th. Um is there anyone who has any questions about >> So yeah, go ahead. >> So part of that Yeah, sorry. So part of

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that discussion with phase is that the council and I know Mark that you went over it as well too is that as a council we still have to go over absences whether it's um if it's if it's an

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excused absence to be um accepted by the council. So that's something that's been discussed for the past few months and so far it looks like we're kind of glossing over it. So I think it's important to still

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address. If an absence is not an excuse, >> then is that something that the counselor just success and then they

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>> Susie? Susie, sorry. You're you're breaking up a little bit, >> Susie. you were breaking up a little bit before, so I couldn't really gather everything uh in detail what you just said, >> but um I don't know if you if you could I don't know if you

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>> Oh, I can Oh, sorry. Can you guys hear me now? I'm sorry. >> Now it's much better. Yes. >> Okay. So, as a council, we've been discussing for the past few months and we were going over absences and unexcused absences and whether or not

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the council was accepting. This is part of the reason why those meeting minutes were not um just um you know reviewed and accepted because those were things we were going to touch on. So >> thank you Susie.

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>> Yeah. >> Thank you Susie. I don't remember off the top of my head were did you were you able to attend the the last face check-in meeting with the council? >> I was there. Yes. So, >> this is so one of the things that were

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being discussed was whether or not the council was going to follow through with the bylaws and actually um discuss the unexcused absences and whether or not that was something >> that was something that was discussed

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during the phase meeting. I was there. >> Yeah. So, if you remember >> when we discussed the when we discussed in the check-in meeting when we discussed the absences, Tama was very

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clear and it was asked of her multiple times about the absences. She clarified if you remember that first the issue about the length of time that a member can be on. She clarified that it doesn't

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matter how many minutes the any any of us any of the members are joined in a have joined the meeting. It doesn't matter because they are on right and that and as long because we have the

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combined meeting of the calendar and business meeting. She clarified that it counts as one meeting for us. So even if a member is at the business meeting, it still counts because it's counts as one. She clarified that. She also clarified

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that according to the according to the um the the New York state law and the chancellor's records, she clarified that if if a absence constit is constituted as valid, if there's a valid reason and

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she went over the reasons for the valid excuse, then there's nothing that the council can vote on because that's not what is under state law. How how however when it the thing is that when we're dealing with the unex

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we have other people who want to speak >> okay I can tell please Susie please we had Dr. Kenton and then Heather but Dr. Kenton is passing to Heather. Heather go ahead please.

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>> Okay we're very off topic. I just want to remind council members who are this is their first term that we bring this to a vote. We don't have to have consensus. If you disagree with what's in the meetings, you are free to abstain or to say no. Um but we are definitely

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off topic. So I want to make sure we bring it back to approval of the minutes. >> And Dr. Caitlyn, go ahead. Thank you, Heather. After we vote on the minutes, I ask to have a I

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have I have a motion to make, but that's what I want to state after you vote on the minutes. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. So, back to the issue. Is there any objections to anything in the meeting minutes on April 16th or is there a motion to approve the

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meeting minutes for April 16th, 2026? Is there a motion to approve the minutes? >> I make a motion to approve the minutes. >> I second. >> All in favor, please say I. Opposed. Abstain.

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Okay. April 16th passes. Thank you. No one objected. So, moving on to Thursday, May 28, 2026. Is there any changes, alterations

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that anyone sees what the mean is as presented? If there are no questions, no no issues, is there a motion to approve the meeting minutes as presented? I make a motion to approve the minutes for May 28th. A second.

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>> All in favor, please say I. >> Opposed? Abstain. Okay. Thank you. That passes. All right. June 18th, 2026 meeting minutes. Is there any issues,

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objections, changes? If so, please voice Okay. Is there a motion to approve the meeting minutes for June 18th, 2026? >> I make a motion that we approve the minutes for June 18, 2026.

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>> Is there someone in a second? Cindy. Any seconds. All in favor, please say. Any objections? Abstensions. Okay. Thank you. >> I abstain because I wasn't present for

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the meeting. >> Thank you, Heather. >> Joanne. >> Um I'm looking over the um meeting minutes and I'm noticing some inconsistency on some meeting minutes. It has Brooke

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um attendance on it and some it doesn't. Now, does her attendance count for our meeting minutes? >> Is our representative on CCHS? So, she is a nonvoting member of our council.

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>> I understand that. But does her attendance need to be documented on um meeting minutes? And if so, we need to have consistency because some meeting is on. >> Sorry. She's not a member of our council. She's a member of the CCHS.

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>> Excuse me. Excuse me. This is the problem. We're getting interrupted and people are getting cut over. >> Go ahead. Please go ahead. >> And all I'm asking is I just see some inconsistency. So I'm just asking so it does not have to be something that comes

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up down the line since we are sitting here going over three four meeting minutes. Does it has to be noted on our meeting minutes or not? Cuz I see some she's present some is noted if she's here or not. I'm just saying I know she

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represent us on CCHS. I fully aware of that. I'm just asking. >> Sandra said she is not officially a member of CCSC. So there's not a requirement to have one minute. >> It doesn't go through roll call that

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understand. So Rose Rose is aware. Thank you for the feedback. Okay. And every council member is aware. Thank you for the feedback. All right. >> And I'm putting a motion on the table if we as a council are we all in agreeance. So so we have consistency so this don't

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come up in two three meetings down the line. So, what's your motion? >> Is it going to be a going to be consistency? We going to document it if she's president or not?

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>> So, that's not a motion. If you have a motion, please give a motion. >> I said I was yelling. >> Nobody's yelling. Joanne, if you have a motion, then you can give it. Otherwise, let's move on. >> I'm putting a motion on the table. Do

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any other council members feel or see what I am bringing to the table? >> I can understand what's going on because I I think it's important. I guess you know that we just have a >> Susie. Hold on. >> Okay.

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>> Well, hold on for a moment. Joanne was was was going was speaking about a motion, but Joan, that's not a what you're saying is not a motion. And if you have a motion, such as I motion that we list all of our voting and non- voting members on the

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>> meeting minutes, that could be a motion. But that that would be the motion if that's what you're proposing. Sure. >> We at the business meeting. I'm putting it on on the business meeting on the table. Or if you want to put that for the discussion, we could put that as new new business meeting topic then. So we

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don't have >> So we'll put it new business for Are you talking for next meeting then for August? >> No, we can add it tonight because we don't have No, we can add it tonight. >> Okay. So you're motioning to add to the agenda under new business to talk about the meeting minutes. Is there a second?

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>> Is that correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. Is there a second to add that to the agenda? >> Okay, I'll second. >> I second. >> Second. All in favor of adding that to new business, please say I. >> I.

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>> I'm sorry. We got to do a roll call. Thank you. >> We are voting to add a new item to the agenda. Dr. Sai, >> Cindy, >> yes. >> Joanne,

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>> yes. Heather, >> no. >> Mark, >> yes. >> Anita, >> yes. >> Ron,

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>> yes. >> Maggie, >> it seems that the council would like to discuss. So I say yes. >> Yes. >> Six. Yes. All right. So it'll be added to the new business.

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That's six. Yes. Six yeses, one no, one abstension, and one pass. Yep. Okay. All right. Dr. Canton, you said you had a motion you wanted to Okay. All right. Thank you. So,

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thank you. Committee updates, annual report. Any update on the annual report? >> So, I made some um I gave updates last time and um I didn't really get a response from anybody. Um, so we just

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need to make another committee meeting um and and see who comes. But if I don't have um people that are willing to lead the small group to get it written, I'm I can't I'm not I can't write it. So we

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will have to change our game plan or change what we want to submit. So we can put another um date on the calendar um to meet again. Okay, thank you, Heather. So, if you can let Rose know the proposed date for the

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committee meeting so she can send it out to everybody. Next up, busing and transportation. Busing and transportation. >> I had a question. >> I apologize. Sorry, Joanne. Go ahead. My apologies. I missed that. >> Heather, I have a question. Um,

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is there a particular reason why we are rewriting the whole entire annual report and not just making appropriate edits to the last annual report that is noted on file

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cuz it's several hundred a couple several pages like almost 100 pages. I was reviewing it. I'm going to I'm going to defer and say that that's something we should discuss at the annual report meet committee

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meeting. Um if that's what we want to discuss, but I don't think it's something that needs to be discussed here. We should if you want to talk about how we're putting the report together, you could come to the committee meeting. >> The only actually I would like to

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understand this now and wrap my head around this. So, a little bit of an explanation would be most welcome. >> I had my hand raised. >> I I I just wanted she answered my question, but I didn't get to finish what I said. The only reason why I'm

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sorry. Um, the only reason why I asked that question, >> Joanne, we had Anita was you had finished and Anita was speaking. So, if Anita can finish her thoughts, then Dr. Canton has something to say and then we come back. If you're if you if I interrupted you,

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my sincere apologies, Miss Cummings. So, I was just saying that I would like to understand what happens, what goes on, what are the how does this annual report uh be put

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together, design and and um who's working on what? So I think it is essential to discuss this today. I I welcome this especially because I am a new member. Thank you so much

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>> Dr. Canton and then >> so the annual report was done three and a half years ago. The data has changed and how we do the annual report is each of us take a piece of it. We look up the

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data and we write recommendations for the department of ed. If any of us go to state law and read what the annual report requirements are, it's there for the public. You will know exactly what we need to do. We as a council have had a committee for the new members on the

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committee. What normally happens is one person sort of leads it has or has been for the last several years the person who has kind of put it all together. But each of us take a piece the piece that we feel most comfortable with. do the research um and look at the policies or what changes and then we give

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recommendations as a committee. We give it to her. We then bring it to the council and then the council will vote. Um in the past we actually had a person who would do the annual report for us. Um but after paying that person a large amount of money from our budget that

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didn't make sense, we decided to take on the task ourselves. So what I will say is most of the conversation about the annual budget happens in committee. So if we come to the committee meeting, you'll get the details of the pieces of

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how it's put together. Um but if you really want the information for new members, I suggest you go read education law. It tells you exactly what your responsibilities are and also chancellor reggs tell us what the responsibilities are around the annual report. Um, and

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then we come together and meet as a committee. What I wanted to say was, Heather, whatever part of the the annual report you give to me, I'll do my own part. I may not be able to make it to the committee meetings, but tell me what you need me to do and I'll do my part. Thank you.

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>> Thank you. Hold on, Heather. Joanne was up next and then you go ahead, Joanne. Um, back to my original question was because at the last meeting and it was not in

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June because Heather, I don't think you was present. I think it was May. It was said to the council, not asked, but told to the council that we was going to do XYZ.

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and it sparked up a lot of flags and controversy. So now I'm asking when I went back and started asking questions regarding it, it was said yes, it is our responsibilities to do it annually. Yes,

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it is our responsibility and this is what we signed up for. But it's not our fault, new council members on this council, that this annual report has not been done in 3 years. So, we should not

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be held accountable for that. And if so, things should be taken to a little consideration for a little feedback to maybe a little changes or a little constructive feedback. But I'm just asking a simple question

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for time conception. Can we Well, it seemed like there's a lot of conversations going on in the room about what I have to say because when I asked this question in person, I did not get

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the same feedback that you have to come to the annual meeting. It just said you're on a committee, you do a report. And that's how it was said to us. And all I'm asking is how come we cannot go back and edit what needs to be updated

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and if something did not need a change we don't need to change it. So we are working on time conception and that's why I'm asking this question and that's why I wanted to ask this question before we went around the room and it came back

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to me again. >> Okay. So, it's nobody's fault that there hasn't been a report in a few years. Things have happened. That's prior councils. We're talking about this council this year. Yes, there is an older report out

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there. If someone wants to go in and update data and copy paste, they are more than welcome to. No one's stopping anyone from doing that if they so would like. But that's not what this discussion was about because obviously

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there's a three-year-old report deal is very different today than they were three years ago. There was a lot of things that have happened this year that weren't even around three years ago. Heather had proposed that each member work on parts

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and that's historically how things have happened over years. Um and that was at the May meeting and then there was a committee meeting as well. Um, you know, so you know, anyone can do what they want. The reality is we do have a

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responsibility based on state law, education law to do an annual report. The state law doesn't specify how we do the report, but we do have a requirement. So Heather has her hand up. Go ahead, Heather.

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>> So on our council, we have committees. The committees are where the work, the nitty-gritty work gets done. At the annual report committee meeting, it was me and Maggie. Those were the only two people that showed up. So, I am speaking

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from my own personal opinion. I am having a lot of feelings about where this conversation is going because people want to have a lot of opinions about how things are being done and who's doing what work and if they're doing it the right way or the wrong way

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or whatever, but people don't want to show up to the committee meetings to do the work. Somebody has to make a decision to get the thing out there and to make it happen. And so it's very frustrating for me. Um, and I can tell

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you the report in the past, people really didn't contribute. It ended I ended up writing the whole thing, you know. Uh, and I can't do that. I can't do that this year. I don't have the room on my plate. I don't have the resource to do it. I don't have the emotional or

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mental resource to do it. And I need people to help. But you have to show up. You have to show up and you have to do the work. That's why we have the committee meetings. and we had our committee meeting for the annual report and Maggie showed up.

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It's always the same like three people that show up and do the work. >> Thank you, Heather. Anita, you had your hand and then Oh, I'm sorry. Pardon me, Dr. Kent. Go ahead.

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One of the frustrations I'm having with this is the fact that there's sort of this underlying suspect behavior that someone is doing something or not doing something. As a member of this council, when we all sign up, you get a a booklet

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with the rules of what we are accountable to. And I think it's unfair to people who chair count um committees that other people assume that there's something else happening. Now, I can take responsibility for why I haven't

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been a part of the report the last year. Okay? But if you're not sure what we're supposed to do, I think it's so unfair to use the business meeting or the calendar meeting to have these conversations. If we if we need to have

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conversations, whether it's about how we show up together or show up separately or whatever people's personal feelings about each other is, I think it's unfair to the public that we get on here and we behave in this way, which makes the meetings a lot challenging. And you have

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about 15 items on here that we cannot get through. But no one wants to take accountability for not reading or understanding what the role is that we're all sitting in. It doesn't it doesn't mean that I'm attacking any individual person here, but based on the

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questions you're asking, clearly people have not read the information. I'm suggesting if we're going to be more successful as a council, you need to read the information. And if you're not sure, it's some of us here with

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institutional knowledge. I am willing to share whatever I know to help people be successful. What I am not willing to do is to be attacked to try to be minimized and then you need my help. I don't work well under those circumstances and as I

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said at the meeting with face I am willing to put be a part but if we're going to constantly go back and forth it is so unfair to the parents who are watching us and if we want to respect everyone when someone's speaking you let them speak. When it's your turn, we

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listen. But we can't interrupt and not follow Robert Roua order because we don't know what the rules are. And Mark, if you and Maggie going to lead the meeting, you guys going to have to be a little more forceful with all of us as members to follow the Robert Roua

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order. Me included. >> Thank you, Anita. You're up. Um, again I know I had to like Okay. Um, what I wanted to ask is again

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I'm a new member and I'm really not familiar with when the annual report um well no we should all we should No, it shouldn't be offline. We should know when the next annual report subcommittee

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is so that the people online, the public as well as all of us can be familiar because I follow very closely and I have been attending the subcommittees and the these meetings for quite some time well

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prior before joining the CCSE very happy to do so. So I would like to know when the next annual report meeting is. Number one. Number two, um consider me part of this. Um I am very good at you

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know putting reports together. I have that kind of background my undergrad degree and also I would like to see all of us come together more so because this group is amazing. All of you not each of you come with a wealth of knowledge. So,

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let's really come together and and uh like just really come together. I I would like to see that moving forward. Uh thirdly, are we addressing each other by first name or last name? Because I see I just want to be respectful. I'm

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new here. I see sometimes people are being addressed by first name, last name. What is appropriate here moving forward? Thank you. Okay. So, let me take those. Heather, when you have a date, if you can please

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let Rose know and the council know. >> Um, we have Thursdays usually free. Committee meetings are on a lot of other days, but they don't seem to get scheduled on Thursdays for fear that our calendar meeting is going to be on the same day. So, we can put it for July 30th, which is two weeks from now. that

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gives time for interpretation to be um you know arranged and things like that. So July 30th at 7 pm and the materials will be provided prior to that meeting so that one can review in preparation for that meeting yet or

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where where can we access these materials? >> Excuse me. I'm like being disregarded. I don't have my hand. >> Hold on. You're next in line. >> Please wait your turn. No need was next. I Anita I can send you our previous

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report so you can look at it. Um we uh we don't have any like solid materials for this report yet. We're still trying to figure out the best way to make get it written a a process that um um

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distributes the the work and the and not just distributes the work but distributes the accountability for the work. Um because um in the past it's a lot of like one person running around and having to

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constantly follow up on what people are doing and when they're meeting in the deadlines and why they didn't meet it and when he's and and it it it was a lot. It was too much for it was too much. And so it was more more about setting up a process to get it written

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where the accountability is shared among several members instead of just one person. Um but come to the meeting and we we can discuss it and um and get some uh action steps on paper. >> So June 30th 700 p.m. July

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30th. Thank you Heather. July 30th, 7 PM is our annual report committee meeting and we can discuss all all things annual report. I would encourage each and every council member to come and then of course it's open to anybody in the

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public as well. All right, Joanne, go ahead please. I really feel disregarded because I've been standing here for the longest with my hand up to have something to say and I really feel a little taken back.

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I'm not sitting here pointing fingers who comes to when and what's what. For the most part, I have been in person at all meetings. Committee meetings, I have been there. Heather, I'm sitting here watching your facial expression. No, I

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did not make May meeting due to I was dealing with a family emergency. >> Joanne, we don't need personal. >> No, no, no. Mark, excuse me. Give the respect right now. Okay, >> Joanne, we need to keep it focused on the meeting. We don't need anything personal.

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>> Mark. Mark. Maggie. Heather just said it was only her and Maggie at the meeting. That's an accurate statement, >> but I feel that was very that was a a very low >> was a statement of fact. Joanne, Joanne, if you have anything to add, please add

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it. Otherwise, we're going to move on to the next agenda topic. >> Mark Mark, right now you're being very dismissive. And you're being dismissive to who you want to be dismissive to. And I can say this in front of everybody. Y'all don't want to go to executive order, but y'all want to say this in the public to everyone else. So, I'mma say

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right here to the public to everyone else. Okay? If I was sitting there in person, we still would have the same discussion. And I feel it was a very low blow. Okay? Because I come regardless what I'm going through or not going

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through. And my grandma on her deathbed, I came to those meetings, okay? It never was said that it was a mandatory annual meeting. So please, Heather, don't just make the sympathy said you was the only one, you and Maggie, because there's plenty of times we had different

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committee meetings and we did not see you at >> Joan, there's a point of order out there. >> Joanne, there was a point of order. >> Joanne had a point of order. Robert's rules says we stop the discussion. >> Okay. Know what, Mark? If it's you, Mark.

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>> Joanne, Robert's rules. I can get face if we need to have the face representative come in, we can. No problem. roles point of order. We stop the discussion. >> This is business meeting. So when are we going to talk business if we have something to talk regarding business

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>> Joanne? We have been question of order. Please I need you to stop for now. >> Okay. >> At some point it doesn't become fair. >> Susie, I haven't called on you. If you want to raise your hand, please raise your hand. You can be acknowledged. >> I'm raising my hands.

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>> Thank you Susie. Please go. I think it's important that as members we're just respectful to each other and it's important that members are not just silenced they're muted we deserve as members to be able to speak uh whether

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we're in the room in person or whether we're hearing virtually and I think that it's important that we pay that you know whether it's that 60 seconds 90 seconds whatever it is we should allow allow members to be able to express the

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concerns because if we're silencing members but we're only allowing the general public to speak it it's not a great reflection for the committee. So that's why when I when I joined one of the first things I said via email to the

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council is that we really address certain things and Roberts moves away >> and have a point of proper code of conduct for all matters. >> My background is loud because of the kids. I myself but I think it's

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important that we do listen to council members. >> Right. Thank you Susie. So again, we're talking annual report. Joan, if you've got something related to the annual report and how we're doing it for the June 30th meeting, please speak,

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but let's keep it top on topic. Okay, Maggie, you're up. Go ahead again. Annual report only. Sorry. uh regarding the annual report. So, Heather, um I'm willing to help on on anything having to do with the annual

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report, an outline or anything. We welcome any input. We hope that um even though it's not mandatory, we hope that all members are able to make it on June 30 on July 30th at 7 p.m. >> Thank you. All right. Next up is busing

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and transportation. Heather, I know you you put a survey. We talked about the survey during our calendar meeting. I know you've been reporting on it to OPT. Thank you. And and for everyone else who's been working, thank you. >> So, we we had an actually really great

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meeting on Tuesday for busing and transportation and um a lot of things were were discussed. I was trying to pull up the um the notes so I could just highlight some of the things. Um we um we posted that survey. Please note that

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the survey, there's two surveys just so people don't get confused. One is the one that was put together by Apple Seed and that is a more general about busing and transportation issues for the summer. Our specific survey that Rose

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will be sending out on extreme heat days and probably twice a week um is it's always going to be the same link so you can save it in your inbox um is to let us know when there's an air conditioning problem on your child's bus so that we

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can jump on it um immediately to get it um escalated to OPT. So, one is really for acute air conditioning only kind of issues and then the other is not a CCSC

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um survey, but we definitely um are are collaborating and sending it out um because it's really important. Um it's being run by Apple Seed and the um public advocates office. The other thing that we spoke about um was um having and

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I I reached out to uh John Benson, Glenn Rybrook, and um Kevin Moran uh to see if they could send a knowledgeable representative to our next busing uh committee meeting uh to kind of um uh

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talk a little bit about uh the back to school busing. uh they are launching a new um routing system. Schools are going to have a lot more control over um entering the lake wrership and all of that and and the routing is being done

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by this new system and we want to um just have a little bit more information. This I think also will include um your um your students um scanning on and off the bus um things like that. So we just don't know a lot of details and would

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like to have some more information. and then also have an opportunity to have a little less formal discussion with OPT so that we can collaborate on um escalating any issues that might be coming up on I say on the streets um

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from this new routing app because when you put a new system in place there's always like bugs in the code and things like that and if we're seeing um a pattern of things coming up that we're hearing from our families we can coordinate with OPT so that they can get

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the proper tickets in their system. Um, and when I say tickets, I don't mean like the tickets that get opened when we make complaints, but the tickets with their developer of their app so that they can get the things fixed. So, we're going to talk um I'm hoping they can come or send somebody for that. Some of

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the other things that came up in the meeting that we want to start addressing and maybe write some resolutions about. Um um I'm just going down to my notes here. Um so we want to follow up on the

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travel training pilot that was done for parents. Um, we also discussed um seeing if there's a way to um collaborate or or suggest that they create some kind of um maybe a a a video about safe travel

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training that all schools have access to so that they can maybe have it as part of like middle school orientation because we know our our kids um with IEPs definitely need that support. But um all all students really need to know

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how to travel to and from school safely and and in middle school is when a lot of kids start to travel independently uh and not necessarily take a school bus to school. So, we want to make sure that um maybe there's a way to um make it easy

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for for schools to be able to provide um travel training uh safety kind of overview in their like orientations to middle school. Um we also talked about

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um um I'm just going through here. Um, talking about the VIA app and seeing if there's a way for there to be a um, a notification that the driver is arriving soon. Um, we have seen a trend since the

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VIA app came out where families are not necessarily given pickup times and then the bus is now only waiting 1 minute um, before they leave. And so, and the matron and the driver is not required to call the family. And I think there's just this like well they have the app

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they should be checking the app they should know where we are by checking the app but um one not all of our families have access to that app. Um they are required to give a pickup time and that's not happening. So we want to make sure that those things are addressed

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coming into the new year. Um there's a couple of other things. Oh we also have had some issues coming up. something. We don't have confirmation, but we think something happened over the weekend where they did some data migration into a system because people's um pickup

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addresses change, pickup times were changed in the system. Um, and we had reports from families and it was kind of frustrating because we reached out to OPT and OPT basically said it was all the school's fault and and the parents fault that they needed to contact their

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schools and be in communication with their schools about changes. But we know parents are in contact with their schools. I know for a fact that my son's school did not spend the weekend changing pickup times in the system that to to make it harder on their kids to

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get home from the summer rising program. So um you know uh it was it was unfortunate that it felt like the schools were being blamed for the issues that were happening um and kind of a lack of transparency about um about what

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was going on. Um, but I I do want to say that OPT um has really um always been a good partner with us, has always been a good collaborator, and when we do bring issues to the table, they really do try to resolve them as soon as they can for

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families, and I always appreciate appreciate them doing that. But these were just a few things that came up. Um, so I encourage you to come to our next busing committee meeting so we can um discuss some of these in more detail and hopefully somebody from OPT will be

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there to to have a discussion. >> Thank you, Heather. >> Thank you. It was a lot in the meeting this week. Um, busing comments, Joanne. Um seriously as far go ahead

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>> as far as travel time travel and those other partnerships um those programs have been being rolled out on a continuous basis not with just students um putting on their IEPs but

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they have been doing especially with the new pilot program ACES and others have been putting into play. So that I know a lot of families have been taking partnership in has been taking part of that recently especially as the school

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year has ended. Now I know a lot of families have been given good feedbacks um regarding that. I have sat in meetings with regarding that um especially with um John Hamill and his

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team and Rebecca and with the pilot program and stuff we've been working on. So I think that has been going very well in collaboration. Um that's something maybe the busing committee can maybe work with us and maybe we can work

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together as a team and um share that information. what is going on in the other pilot programs that they have going on in the schools and they have been rolling that out um more forcefully

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for high school students even more. >> Thank you Susie. You have your hand up. >> Susie. Okay, we'll get back to her. Anita, go ahead. >> I Hi, good evening. I was happy to have

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joined the committee, the busing and transportation committee. Thank you so much, Heather, for for spearheading this uh very important uh matter. I also wanted to um note to the families that

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are here that the time of the the amount of waiting time was changed to 1 minute from 3 minutes to 1 minute um from the time that the bus uh the the time the

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bus is supposed to be present in front of the home. um that was not properly communicated and in distribution material etc. So I just wanted to bring up the fact that that was an issue. Also one of the many topics that was

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discussed is also safety on the buses. So I hope that we CCSE continue to work on um giving the importance that is well need is needed because it at the end of the day

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these students who ride the bus are all alone and so we need to make sure that we write up draft these resolutions and work properly join hand in hand to ensure that safety is uh a a strong

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focus. amongst the many issues that are uh around busing and transportation. Thank you. >> Thank you. All right. Um moving I don't see any other hands, so we'll move on. Um the

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next topic is the bylaw. >> I'm sorry, my hand was raised. My hand was >> Yes, we called on you and you you you took it down. >> I think it Sorry about that. So, in regards to the busing, of course, the the council knows. I have sent out an email because

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I think it's so important that we address um OBT busing issues for summer and of course September and getting ahead of things and exactly what we're touching on. This 60-second weight rule is just not uh realistic for special

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needs families that are going through so many challenges just to try to get their child there. But one of the things that I actually wanted to uh present to the council and to Heather of course um for the busing committee is um I actually uh

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invited Corey to join the council here just uh to be a part of the meeting to hear all of the the positive things that are going on um with the committee. and he's actually offered um for council

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members to actually join on board so we can um go and have a tour of the actual busing um facility so we can experience it and see what it's like versus just hearing things being mentioned about data collection and such. Um so I think

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it would be something beneficial to have a gentleman like Corey um involved in helping us in that way. So that way it becomes a a real hands-on experience for all of us. And um he has actually uh

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created a date where we can actually go uh to one of the bus depots in Queens before the end of this month. And again, it's uh anyone can come at their own will, but I think it would be a great experience. And I'm encouraging council

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members um to go ahead and join as well. And I know Corey has this hands where we just I think it would be something beneficial. >> I thank you Susie. Uh I just unfortunately it's a business meeting. The public is not able to interact. My

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>> I'm so sorry. No problem. >> No problem at all. But if you want to put in the chat box, please feel free. But there there are rules we have to follow. >> I'll put in the chat box. My apologies again. Thank you. >> Oh, good. Thank you, Corey. Appreciate you attending tonight. and thank you for the invitation for all of us because I

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think that would be great. >> Okay, next up is bylaws committee. Any update from bylaws? >> Hi everyone. Um, good evening everyone. Thank you everyone for who attended the last bylaw meeting that we had when we

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resumed back in July. Um, sorry I have my calendar in front of me. Um, so we were supposed to meet this Thursday. That just pa I'm sorry, this Tuesday just passed. But, um, due to me being under the weather, I do apologize

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to everyone um, in reference to that. But with the first bylaw meeting that we did have um just pulling up on my screen on

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just the date I'm sorry we had it was the um July sorry guys we touched a Not regarding the bylaws,

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we was able to start, we are actually had agreed as council to basically start fresh and basically make edits as we go on. So, we have been tackling all sections of the bylaws from the very

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beginning and we will be working all the way through and we are going to be adding and working on the wording. we were supposed to come together this month. Um, come together tonight and confirm if we was going to continue and

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skip over this Tuesday coming up as a bylaw meeting. Um, what is it? It was supposed to be the 21st. We were supposed to skip and resume on the 28th. And I said we would speak with council to see if everyone was still in agreements or if they wanted to meet

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this week Tuesday the 21st. So I'm bringing it to the council as a whole now so we can let um Rose know so it could be put on our calendar if we will be meeting this week Tuesday or not or we're going to resume

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on the 28th. Joanne, as you're the committee chair, if you want to just put the date out there, you know, for a vote, if you want I mean, obviously you're asking for input. I haven't seen any input, so if you want to just put a date out there, please feel free. Anita's got her hand up.

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>> Sorry. >> I'm keen on July 28th because my my son has been a real pest lately. And so July 28, he's in Roa in RIIT. So >> I'm all yours.

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>> Okay, no problem. So we could we could keep this week free. I just didn't want us to say we locked in three consecutive Tuesdays back to back. And that was one thing I wanted to be um conscious of people's time, especially for the summer since we said we was going to actually

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hit this bylaws head on and we was going to tackle every section. And we actually left off at I think we actually we a little past I got my notes right here. We are a little past we up to article

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we open to the public. We in that little No, we got to absence. Yes, absence. So that's where we at right now. Absence. I will have notes for everyone. Um usually I do have my reports and stuff but due to me be under the weather. Um Mark was

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supposed to be working on for us the education law for confirmation so that we had the correct confirmation law in the bylaws um education law act um article act 52A

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which makes sure it represents to the citywide council not to the local district of CECs the district. So we wanted to make sure we had the correct um educational law in there. So that was one of the things that we was coming

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back to the table to add, but we are currently working on wording and feedback. So I will get um notes and everything out to everyone. And if everyone doesn't have anything else to add um we will resume on July 28th at

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700 p.m. and with a hard 8:00 stop. >> Okay. Thank you. So July 28th, 7 to 8:00 p.m. will be the next bylaws committee meeting. Thank you, Bonita. Go ahead. >> I attended the bylaws meeting and I

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really would like being that this is a very important uh conversation and meetings to take place around the bylaws. It is the operations of the CCSE and I hope that all of us can attend

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because it really it it'll help direct um the the the forthcoming year. It'll really help in terms of the many the many needs, the strengths, the weaknesses, all of that. It's actually a time to shine and and see how

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far we've come. So, I hope we can all come together that day. Thank you. >> Thank you. All right. Communications and outreach committee. >> Thank you. Um, yeah. So, we are not meeting

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uh in July and August. Uh, we're we're going to start back up in September. But we did we have been having meetings the months prior. Um what we discussed at the last meeting

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um was kind of just brainstorming on a resolutions guide. Um we I wanted to see if um because we haven't really passed any resolutions, you know, that much and so I wanted to

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see if maybe if a guide can help. I know it has helped me. Um and so kind of like put that idea out there and just um started to brainstorm during the meeting. Um I got some good feedback from uh the attendees.

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Um Joanne and I are co-chairs of the um of this committee, but um we haven't there hasn't been other members that have come in uh consistently. So um you know, we

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really do need your feedback. I did uh input all of the the the uh the forms the the documents in our shared um by our share folder for the communications and outreach committee. I've shared the

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um link multiple times but if you don't have access to that um please let me know and I'll share it directly with you. Um, we also talked about um in previous meetings and we talked about also in the in this last one about a uh

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citywide outreach letter that can be sent out um that's also in the in the shared um folder. And that's simply just kind of like a direct outreach um to the

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IEP members to of each district because we're seeing that um and Joanne and I have discussed this in length throughout the meetings that we don't have a lot of um people that or or we're not connected

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to them the IP members of the of the districts um the CEC's rather uh we're not you know we want more more of them to come to our meetings more of them we want to hear from them what's happening on the ground I think as a citywide

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that's very very important um and so Joan and I have discussed this and yeah we really are are struggling with um with people coming in to to our meetings and actually knowing what we do

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as a citywide council um and hearing from each and and and every one of them. Um, District 75 um, uh, members also. Um, but yeah, so all to say that um, that's kind of like what we've been

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working on. Um, we value uh, and we actually invite any of the feedback that that any of you have around ideas on how to do better outreach. Um and I think one of the ideas that actually was came

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from the bylaws uh committee was that um you know for us to to actually go into for for our meetings our calendar business meetings to go into um the the schools and make connections there. It's very different when it's you know

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virtual in the box and it's it's a different connection um when it's in person. Oh, sorry, Joan. Go ahead, >> May. Um, I just want to bring to you I think I wanted you to stop right there because me and you la you probably forgot what we spoke about yesterday.

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Um, that it was bought. We want to um before we do any outreach and putting anything out there, we want to go back to the bylaws and just make sure how our committees and subcommittees are being

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ran on the outside that we have everything noted and everything is up in order before we send out those subcommittee letters. remember I brought that to your attention because it was some questioning and then some um questions came up regarding regarding

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certain meetings being recorded and certain people um personal information being shared on websites and stuff like that. So certain things came out. So that that's why I just wanted to just stop you right there so we can bring that back to the bylaws committee so so

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that we can um so we can um bring that um to the committees and we can flush that out before we start sending letters out there because when we come back out in September, we want to make sure everything is being done the proper way

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and everyone sees CCSE the way it should be. and we took the feedback that we got from different members and people in the community. So that's why I wanted to stop you there. >> Two minutes. Um, thank you Joanne. Um, I

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just want to say that we've been recording the committee meetings because we I mean we're I mean it's open meetings law and it's supposed to be available you know if somebody asks also. So that's why we've been recording and what I've personally been doing is

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letting folks know that the meeting is being recorded whether it's on the chat or at the beginning of the meeting, you know, cuz I know sometimes details come up and so we, you know, try to encourage the public to understand that this is being recorded. It's supposed to be, you

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know, open meetings law. It's supposed to be, you know, open to the public and there's they can just um comment. But when it comes to like personal information, we try to stay steer folks away from that. So I know that that's happened, but you know, and and and Mark

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can write me on this if it's supposed to be recorded or not, but I mean, as far as I know, it is committee meetings are are public record. So as such, yeah. So all right, thank you. Um Joan Maggie

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uh health and wellness. Susie, are you there? >> Okay, we'll move on. >> I never left. >> Okay. All right. Um thank you. So what is taking place right now? We may actually we've had to put um things on

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hold for health and wellness. Um we actually been trying to plan uh a meetup but again that requires a little bit something you're when you're bringing a community uh together and to meet in person whether for a simple walk or a

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warmup. it does require for us to have a few items on hand to make sure that we're replenishing the children and replenishing the parents that are involved whether it's with water and little snacks. So, uh it's something

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that we may um put on hold. We're going to discuss a little further and Miss Rose, I'll be in contact with you and um and again I'll I'll touch base with uh all of the key members involved. But um that's one thing that we still want to

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continue to do is to ensure that families are remaining um healthy, focused, positive mentally, physically um in every way possible. and Susie, >> you can also let them know we have had a

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very good turnout and our last couple meetings we >> very big >> at least 20 20 communities >> 20 plus >> yes come to the meetings and um it has been very good bonding and everybody has

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been get just enjoying it and s I'm not sure if Cindy's there but >> Cindy and toies and everyone that's been coming out. So hopefully we'll do a little check in just to make sure everybody is staying healthy in this hazarded time. But

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health and wellness has been checking in with a lot of people and families have been enjoying just the just the time to just speak and debrief just the time just to hear what other families have to say and connecting and just hearing feedback from others and

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giving suggestions. So it has been a wonderful experience just hearing from other cultures and communities and just hearing what everybody have to say. It has been a rev blessing experience I must say. >> It's been booming. So very grateful for that. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for

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mentioning >> and Anita I think Cindy is there. So yes we thank you all for your input and support. Thank you. >> Thank you Anita. Go ahead. >> Sorry, I just I'm trying to understand.

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So that was I have attended your health and wellness committee and it's really wonderful. Um just is this is this so this is also video uh recorded correct? >> Yes. So actually I I did reach out to

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Rose and Rose I'll touch base with you again um to maybe get some of those links. That'd be great. That'd be great. >> Is it okay to record a meeting like this where we're encouraging people to share

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their personal care care? It's like a caregiver group. So, this is I just want to understand because I would like to put together a presentation for your committee, right? We've talked about this the mood meter, >> something that I've gone through

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training with the Yale school. Um, so this is going to encourage open dialogue right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. And so this is where I'm having a little concern about not confidentiality necessarily, but how do we navigate

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this? It's a bit delicate, isn't it? So I'm just trying to sort this out, Mark. Thank you. >> Yeah. So Oh, go ahead. >> It's a public meeting, right? A committee meeting is a public meeting. As such, we still have to follow open

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meeting laws. So, we don't have a choice. If someone chooses to share personal information, they have to understand it's on the record. So, that's that's just how it is. So even for example like when we were um

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having one of the very first meetings um for the health and wellness we actually um even you Mark were um participating and being able to speak about your son and be able to do uh you know uh thinking into the future of uh

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participating in doing physical activities and how beneficial that would be for you as a dad and also towards your son. Uh I I think it's it it is a a great thing for people to be able to share, but of course nothing has been um

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you know shared in terms of links for parents to view um these things. So uh so not quite yet. So we haven't crossed that bridge in terms of sharing that information. So right now at this point everything is still kept confidential.

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>> It's a public meeting but Dr. Canton I'm just a bit confused. The committee meetings I thought was the purpose of members coming together to come up with whatever ideas or whatever needs to then internally take those

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ideas back. What I'm hearing is that this is a confidential session that allows people to talk about whatever wellness or mindfulness issues they may have. Um, and if that's the case,

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is that the definition of the committee meeting? Because I thought the committee meeting was supposed to be about coming up with maybe you can create an activity to do that. But the purpose of the meeting is one is public. It should be recorded because if someone has to foil

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you for it because they want information, we have to be able to pull that information. Secondly, it cannot be confidential because the meeting is open to the public according to state law. And the purpose of the meeting is to come up with ideas or plans. At least

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that's what I understood committee meetings to be. But maybe you guys have changed on the bylaws that you have the committee meetings to come up with things to then bring back to us to have possible events to do those other things is they can create whatever, but I don't

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think it's supposed to be a session. I'm just confused when they said confidential. I'm a little confused what that meant. If someone can help me understand because it isn't supposed to be confidential and it is supposed to be recorded last I check.

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>> No, everything. >> So, where's the recording? Because I would like to see what the last meeting was. >> Well, I know you haven't attended any of the meetings that we've had. >> That's why I asked for the copy of the recording. >> So, hold on. So right now what it is, it's uh really what we've been working

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towards is creating um at least two initiatives that we would like to put in place because again the turnouts have been so successful. We've been um very good at attracting u many families. It's something that is needed. It's something

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that has been wellreceived and it's something that is um still quite very uh new. So, I think out of the all of the um subcommittee meetings that have taken place, that's probably one of the the busiest and we'll share more because I

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know we only have a limited time frame with the agenda. We haven't moved forward and be able to speak on that and we can get Thank you. >> Yeah. So Heather has a point. If someone wants to

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create a support group, that's completely okay. Um that would not be a committee meeting and then would not fall under open meeting law. But any committee

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meeting is a public meeting. It's open meeting law. There's nothing confidential about it. It's open meeting. That's the That's the law. >> Go ahead. Type again. >> Can I get a copy of the minutes and a copy of the recording of the last

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meeting because I missed it, but I would like to see what happened and what was said. >> I don't even have a copy of it. So, I think I would review that first and then I'll get back to you guys. But I have requested and not ask you if minutes were taken because they're supposed to be turned over to

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Rose. >> Well, no. If I I I if I don't receive a copy, then it's it's something that I've asked multiple times. So that's why I said that beyond >> Well, I think Joanne wants to say

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something. I'm so sorry. >> Rose, >> as I mentioned before, we have run out of space on our one drive. And the one drive that we have within the DOE, we cannot share outside for others to read,

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you know, be able to see the recording. So once we get up, we can add space to the one account that I still have. Will we have to pay for that? >> Oh, sorry. I didn't know that. Sorry about that.

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>> So they're not the same. >> So that's under our unfinished business number 7.2 too. Rosa is going to discuss the website and the one drive. So, we're a little ahead of but that's where we'll talk about in more detail in a few minutes.

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>> Okay. All right. Thank you, Rose. I didn't know that. I know Joanne wants to say something as co-chair. You can go ahead. So this is one of the reasons why I have spoke to not just Susie but also Maggie and different ones that we need

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to revisit the different committees and just make sure what the committee how the committee is functioned what is the the committee's actual goal function objective so that we know we are

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operating as a committee or is it operating like Mark and Heather I guess said support group and how is it flowing and if it should be recorded don't record how it flows. This is is

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very this is a very good question and this is something that we need to spill over to bylaws because this is what I just finished saying because the reason why I said this was yes we had started subcommittees and we

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have been talking trying to get feedback from different individuals different stakeholders in the committee um community to see how we could best serve them in different areas but I have noticed Notice at some of these meetings that we are taping, you hearing people

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speak on personal experience or something that's going on home and personal and I just want to make sure we are not violating nobody personal space. So I'm just making sure that everybody is on the same page as a council that we

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are calling the committee a committee or if it's safe to say the committee the CCSE is started a support and health for wellness or whatever we should be calling it appropriate name and move it

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in the proper protocol. So that's why I said we need to revisit and make sure we tap into committees prior to September so that we know we up and running on the proper foot like um we were just said by doctor that we don't want to get foil

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and all that other stuff. So that's the reason why I want to make sure we all on the same page. >> Heather, go ahead. >> So the committees are public meetings. They're open to the public and if the public chooses to share personal information, they're sharing their

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personal information in public. However, if the health and wellness committee sees a need to have a support group for parents, they are more than welcome to propose the creation of a support group

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that is not a public meeting. And and that's what I would suggest if there's a need for that. Um maybe the health and wellness committee needs to establish a a a support group or a parent um care group or or whatever you want to call

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it. And then um and then that has to come back to the council and we and we vote about it. That's what happens. Um the the committees, they make a plan and they do the work and then they bring the work back to the council and the council

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votes on it. And I agree, we shouldn't um set up a committee meeting to feel very comfortable for people to share very personal information. That should happen in a closed in a closed group. And so the committee should establish a

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group. Um and that's the work that's the work that's done in the committee. >> Thank you. I I don't want to be a stickler. Mark, you're the president. You and Maggie, and clearly some of the newer members do not know what the expectations are

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around open meetings law, around committees and their function. I don't want them to feel as though I'm just attacking what they're saying, but I'm going to be double advocate. I'm requesting the minutes from that meeting. I'm requesting if it was

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virtual, it should be a video. Now, I was just told they don't have those things. We all know that people can request foil for our minutes and meet me meetings. So, if they're going to chair a committee and they're not sure what to

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do on a committee, which I thought was established when they took over those committees, I haven't been here as much because of health issues, but I think it's important that we give them the right information so that they can be successful. If people share their personal information at a public meeting, we have

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no control over that. But it has to be made public, even if it is sensitive information. If people want to have a confidential or closed meeting, then we need to bring your proposal to the council. We need to vote, create a separate support group if that's what

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you want to do. And if a member wants to run it, we make those decisions. But I think part of the struggle here is a lot of members do not know what is expected for them for whatever reasons. For us who do know, we can either share

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or the presidents can share with them. But it's imperative that we get clear about what the expectation is with committees because that makes us look more dysfunctional when you ask questions >> and it is now 10:00. So

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>> Okay. So I just want to So I just want to bring it to the table. So no >> I don't think you're supposed to respond. Robert was order. He's supposed to give you the floor to respond. >> All right. Joanna, if you have a question, raise your hand, please. >> I just want It's not a question. I just

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want to give clarification because I have been and I'm I'm working with Susie with this committee. This committee has been taping every meeting. So, it has not we have not had a committee meeting that

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it has not taped. Each committee meeting has been taped and Rose has sent out the link and she it is and it is saved accordingly. We do not have access to posting the link. And like I said, this

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is the first we hearing about it not being um no cloud space or whatever. This is the first I'm hearing about this, but I just wanted to be said stated that it is and it's not anybody has mentioned anything

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that has not been nothing that can't be shared. Yes, information on there has been can be shared. It can be recorded. I'm just saying for future I just don't want it to ever come across that someone has said something because it was said

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to me are we supposed to be recording all these committee meetings and I said CCSE records all committee meetings and it was just asked of me why it certain things may be shared that may be

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personal so that's the only reason why I said maybe we want to revisit So, it's not that we miss leading and we don't know our purpose and all this other stuff. I I don't want it to start we going to a negative route. We going

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positive. I just wanted to know. I just want to make sure we're doing it the proper way and we're calling a committee a committee and it should be called a committee versus maybe look at something else because we are part of the health

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and wellness with DOE as well that we started up late with as well and we've been bringing back the feedback they have been giving us as well. So it has been working in conjunction Okay, thank you. All right, let's move on to legislative committee. So, we are

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running latest Dr. Kenton definitely called out correctly. Um, our next meeting is going to be Monday, August 31st, 700 p.m. and then follow up on Monday, September 14th at 700 p.m.

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I got I don't handle it. Um, so Rose will work on figuring out the Zoom link for that so I can start the meeting up. But, uh, Monday, August 31st, Monday, September 14th, next two meetings. Earlier this week, uh, Chancellor Mayor mentioned a couple of the things that

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impacted our students from the budget that was passed last month. 67 and change million for special education preschool opening up in 14 districts. some additional um ASD programs be it Nest

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Horizon Ames did not hit all 32 districts but did hit 14 districts some districts had one school some districts had 34 schools um you know it's a good start we need to get all 32 districts with more programs and we need some of

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those districts to have many more programs than just one Nest or one Horizon or one Ames we need to make sure the whole menu of options that our students need are taken care of in each of those districts and certainly it's not there

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but it's a good step in the right direction and and it's a good move. seed program which is a a weekend program. It's a weekday program. It's an inschool program. Um it's in was it over 60

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schools. That funding was baselined. So that means they don't have to go back now every year to ask for funding. Um the data was very clear um that the DOE put out about how successful SED is in

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helping our students. That was a very good adjustment that city council and mayor agreed to. So that was encouraging. On the federal front, we had the federal department of education

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come out last week with some additional information on how they are moving some of their services. They discussed additional moving of personnel and responsibilities to the health and human services department.

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Um the federal department of education did say all parts of IDA will stay under them. The challenge is that people who actually do IDA, a lot of them got moved or terminated and are no longer in the Department of Education. So there's a

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little bit of a challenge of who's going to do the work of overseeing IDA if the people aren't there to do it. Um so there is that. Um, and again, we'll we'll we'll discuss on Monday the 31st of August and Monday,

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September 14th additional um as we get to the new school year. All right. Um, next we have up co-president's report. Mag, do you have anything you want to report? I know it's late. >> Um,

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bear with me. Uh, and my brain fog. Um so first things first um I wasn't able to attend the chancellor's monthly meeting the last uh chancellor's monthly meeting due to a family emergency near

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the time that that meeting was scheduled but Mark was there um and um I attended a citywide forum on early intervention and early childhood development Jessica Wenstein

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uh who is the chief of committees um dial uh was a speaker and part of the panel that spoke at that um at that event there was various panels that included um service providers that included um

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pediatricians um and that included um yeah uh uh parents and advocates. Um yeah, there's there's an organization that is doing a lot of work in Brooklyn

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to um do outreach to families um that are going through the process of early intervention and dining families through that and kind of like that being a model um through that. So um the the panel emphasized the

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importance of early childhood education uh for kids um uh with disabilities and um I'm sorry integration. So they they spoke about that um and kind of like they spoke about um

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how um immigrant families are impacted um and and that that are in need of services um and that are not seeking help because of this ongoing fear um and and um some

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of them have been deported unfortunately. So, um, all hands on deck around that and around supporting a lot of these families and supporting, um, finding ways to to get to them and meet

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them where they are as well. Um, I also, um, yeah, I attended in my personal capacity. I've been a part of the of um, the Arise Coalition uh, for a while now. Um the AISE coalition is um branched off

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from um Advocates for Children. Um they're not a part of Advocates for Children, but they're they stem from that. And um it's a separate coalition that advocates for students with disabilities. Um and so the coalition had a meeting

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with the chancellor um and the dial leadership team um that was centered around um the goals of the coalition around special education. We brought up a a lot of the issues that

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um have been discussed in length from our council. Um and we also and these meetings were very very short and and timely and um we also met with the the coalition also met with the deputy

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deputy mayor staff and brought kind of the same same um goals kind of the same issues that we've seen um uh as part of the coalition and um and yeah we received

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um good feedback back on um the travel training um but basic like that that they are going to be looking into that more um and yeah and that's um I wanted to say something else about

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um oh my god the oh um the la I because of everything going on and because of um this move um from the on the federal

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level from um the department of of US department of education. Um I would like to propose to the council and put it to the council to see if we would like to uh send out a

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statement on behalf of the council. So um Heather Heather Sai do you want me to repeat that? But I just I was just, you know, just for the record, I wanted to see if maybe we could put out a statement as a

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council re addressing the changes that impact our kids directly from the from the federal government and what the federal government is doing, the language that is coming from the federal government against our kids. I wanted to see if maybe and we can discuss at the

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at the next meeting, but I I really strongly feel that we as a council, citywide council on special education need to put out a statement against uh against all of this. >> Heather, speak in the mic, please.

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>> Maggie, I think that that's something that a few of us here would be willing to work on putting together that when then we can present it at the next meeting to to discuss and vote. I think you're that's a great idea and we do need to speak up and say something and

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we also need to encourage um our special education office to also make a very public statement about what's happening as well. >> So there was a question about quorum. It has to be in person and we're at five at

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this point. Dr. Canon, >> I'm actually working on a statement with National Action Network. I'm their education chair with them in the NAACP around the cuts for special education at the federal level. So, I will share that

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information with you guys. Um, the plan is to really address the fact that a lot of the services have been cut at the federal level. So there's really no protect the protective level at for families at the local level if the state doesn't do what you need to do. So we I

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will share the information I have, but um I don't mind working with Heather or whoever on putting together a statement and I can share what the NAACP and National Action Network what we're doing around those issues. I would love to collaborate on that as well because I

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really do want to emphasize that this what what they're doing and what worries me the most. I don't know if you've heard the language that the that the uh um justice help me out. I'm I'm blanking

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on the name. Department of Justice is saying about our kids. not only the Department of Justice but also the uh health health uh services health and human services. Thank you

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brain fog. Um I I'm really worried about the direction that this administration is pushing is going to be pushing in the future individuals with disabilities and and students with disabilities. And it

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seems that they want to go back to the to instit to institutualization and that is we cannot allow that to happen as a council. We have the duty and the responsibility for the folks

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that elected us to speak up speak up loudly and to at least send out a a strongly worded statement. Put it out there. inform the families of what's happening. Share it widely as a council.

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I know we can't agree on much right now, but we have to agree on this because is because it's going to affect our families. The Department of Justice right now, we and you know this, Heather, we we and we did a lot of work, you two, Dr. and I, we did a lot of work

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to um do the OCR complaint. Well, they're not doing anything of that because what are they doing to the to the to the um civil civil rights um you know office? They dismantled it. So then so then that

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means that our kids could be discriminated against, our loved ones could be discriminated against and then we what recourse are we going to have? We cannot allow that. I'll try to be quick. Um,

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special education and so chancellor's meeting and special education had had there was some discussions on special education. The last chancellor's meeting a couple things came up. Seed did come up. Um, you know, the good thing is again we found out now it's baseline. They said

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there was stuff being worked on. Um, there was a lot of talk about specialized programs. DOE talked about over 12 one pardon me 2,700 new seats have been added over the last two years. That means there's almost

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12,000 total seats for the specialized programs. It's the ones like Nest, Horizon, Ames, and a few other programs out there. So, you know, moving the right direction. Nowhere near what's necessary, but you know, at least it's

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moving. And again, the 67.5 million for preschool special education still not going to solve the problem of all these kids that still don't have seats, but moving again in the right direction. Um, you know, due process complaints they

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talked about um down 65% since 2024. Those are the impartial hearings. So, impartial hearings down 65%. Now again part of that is because of the DOE changes

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in that now they are actually providing um actual staff instead of relying on schools and families to find staff. And so there's now OT's that are going out

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to schools and PTs and speech therapists etc. instead of making it so parents had to find them. So they did a lot of hiring. So it's an improvement. What's that Heather? He Heather's comments we've been pointing out for years and Dr. Canon was

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shaking her head in agreement because both of them have been extremely vocal on this for many many many years. Um and so you know there's some positive things that are finally happening. That being, you know, they also talked about Bronx

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Literacy and Brooklyn Literacymies. Um, I Ready, um, you know, but again, we're talking twommies. We have five burrows. We have tens of thousands of kids who need the additional reintervention that are not

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getting it to the level necessary. And there's certainly a lot more work to do. Um, so I'll I'll leave it there because I know it's late, but uh a lot of stuff going on, but thank you. Um, open up to member updates. Member

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updates please. >> Just a quick thing to put on people's radar. Um, and it just reminded me even though I didn't get to go the un the um disability united unites um festival was this past Sunday um in Central Park.

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They do it every year in July. Um but just to put on folks radar that the disability pride parade is in October uh and I'm hoping that this year we can get um something together for CCSC to march together in that parade. It would be

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really great. Um, so just putting it out there in the universe so it doesn't get lost. >> Okay. Any other memory reports like >> I just have a question. Um, how does one create another committee

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because as you I've mentioned here and there that I'm interested in creating a committee around technology, right? So I think it's long overdue and and and h are are all of these committees having a description in place like you know I know we talked about

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minutes but are we also having a written description and how does one create a committee it does it have to get voted upon okay >> yeah so that's my suggestion would be at the August 6 calendar meeting put that

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on the agenda that for under new business for tech committee as their proposal and then it can be voted on by the council. >> No, this is for like AT and um artificial intelligence and things like

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that. Yeah. Yeah. And and for assist of technology too. >> Yeah, I think it's great. >> But just so procedurally what you would do is you have to make a motion to form the committee and it has to be second and then we vote on it. But if you make the motion, you are expressing that you

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will chair the committee. So, so um yeah, we made I I I made that mistake because nobody told me that when I first started and I um made motions to make several committees and then I was the chair of more committees than I wanted to be chair of because I didn't realize that that's how it works. So, yeah, but

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we can't do it tonight because we don't have quorum anymore. So, next month. >> Yeah. So if you I mean if you can just let Rose know and she'll put under new business for the agenda for for the August 6th. >> Okay. Any other member reports?

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Okay. We're at unfinished business annual report. Heather, have you covered everything in the committee or is there more? >> I raised my I'm raising my hand. >> Joanne, I apologize. I'm sorry. We got to go back. I'm sorry, Joanne. I missed your hand. I apologize. >> Okay. court.

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>> It was it was a it was in regards to your your report and a comment you made about due processing that the percentage has gone down. I just wanted to bring to the table and um I just want to circle

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back maybe in August we can circle back in August um or I could touch with you and whoever council members are interested. I want to look at the IEP meetings protocols because I have sat in

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a few IEP meetings and I'm seeing that the schools are being given more leeway to give special vouchers to go to specialized

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schools. So if a student is not doing what they need to do in our regular DOE schools, I'm seeing that the schools are DOE is just saying, "Okay, you want to go to um

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I just can't uh I just can't think of the name of a one of the schools off the top of my head, but um one of the private schools. Okay, you can go to this private school with no problems and know no mediation, no this, no what DOE

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seeds or um NAS program or whatever would best fit that student. I'm starting to see that. So, that is going to start um and you're going to see a budget and you're going to start seeing things going up more real soon because I have

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seen that happen very frequently within from April to June. Okay, thank you. And we can certainly talk about that in the future. Love love to get more insight on what you're seeing. All right. Um, now the next topic on

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finished business is website and one drive storage. Rose, can you fill us all in on the details, please? As I mentioned to you and Maggie, our website is down now because we don't have the money to pay for the renewal.

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We have to wait until we get the PE card, which is probably going to be in September unless someone is willing to pay out of their pocket. And I I'll do it, Dr. Ken. I And it's fully reimburseable. I've had

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to do it a few times and and we get it reimburseed. The council will vote at a future mean to reimburse or I could come out of personal funds, but we can vote for it to not come out personal funds and just come up our general funds, which would be my recommendation at an upcoming vote and not make it part of uh

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Dr. Canton's personal funds. Dr. And thank you for offering. So it's $39.99 a month for >> here. Here. >> Yeah. 39.99 was what I was reimbured because um they don't do tax taxes

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rather. And as far as the one drive storage, I've run out of space. I've had 30 free accounts and I'm working on the last one. After after that, we have to pay

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for storage. So, so if you can please use the mic so everyone can hear what's being said. I'm sorry. I just asked, can we find out what the cost is so that we can make that a part now? Especially now that you

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have all these committees, you're going to need a lot more storage space. So, I think it's important we find out what it cost and then when we vote on the budget, maybe that can be a line item that we we put on the budget to pay for in the future. And at one point on councils, we used to just pay for it

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annually when we do the budget so that that wouldn't be an issue. So maybe we can bring that back instead of having it monthly so that it would cover an entire year. So we wouldn't have to worry about that. >> One mentioned the internal Google.

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Unfortunately, we can't share anything out of the p the internal Google outside to um for others to upload and read and view the um recording. That's why I had those free um drives. And also we can't

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do with the website I not the website the um YouTube we can't upload the videos to YouTube either using the internal Google using the internal Google drive the one drive I was able to do that >> it was just a logistical thing. Um, we

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just need to I need to go into the profile and see if we can change the email address and the YouTube um profile. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Um, Rose interprets. Sorry, Joanne.

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>> I just have a question. We back at this again. Is it doable for us to get someone just to get we get a a DOE website where we don't have this problems and we don't have to worry about space and all this other issues

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and we don't have to worry about videos not being uploaded, subcommittee videos not being voted, members who don't make it, unable to attend is already there. We don't have to worry about it in one drive. In this >> the DOE has thus far refused all

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councils, the 36 of them. They have multiple times councils and multiple probably all 36 councils have asked for the DOE to host for the DOE to store. The DOE has refused. Now that being said, there's a new chancellor.

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We'll ask again. I'll ask again, Maggie, you will ask again. ask again and see, you know, maybe the 95th time running into the wall will work. >> No, no. What I meant was how we talk about getting a website and we paying for it because it's a DOE vendor. I'm just saying we can't get a web design

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website so that we don't >> You're saying have a third party. It's we're not talking about creating a website. We're talking about storing the data that we need terabytes and terabytes and terabytes of storage space. >> I understand that. I'm saying is storing the data, making sure it's maintained,

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making sure videos are being uploaded in a timely manner, all this because it seemed like this has been an ongoing matter since last year, the beginning of the year. I'm just putting it out there for suggestion. >> Thank you. Um Dr. Cton, go ahead.

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>> So, one of the things DOE's job is to support us. They're not there to really provide the support. Unfortunately, the law doesn't leaves a lot of places ambiguous for how they support us. Um, and so the money that we get, we're we're like our own entity. We're

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supposed to do whatever we need to do ourselves. DOE is just there allegedly to help us along the way, but they're not there to really provide any additional support. So I know for years people have tried to get them to do the

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website to do our meetings to do all and though by law they are not obligated to do those things and so I think with each administration we can ask but I do know that that kind of management if they do it for one council they have to do it

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for all councils. So I think that's part of the reason why there's been so more nos than yes. Um and so we just have to as a council figure out a better way to manage our stuff um with what we're given. It's it's just the unfortunate thing of how the law is written and DOE

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is just there to execute what the law say and that interpretation can be depending on who's sitting in the seat seen one way or another. And Joanna, if you're talking about the third-party vendor running our website,

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running our data stuff, you want to bring that up as an agenda item for August, you certainly can. >> I bought it before and it was a big it everything went left when I bought it last time because apparently everyone wasn't transparent. So that's why I'm

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bringing it out in the open in front of everyone so no one doesn't feel because we're still back here at square one where we was at a few months ago. >> So again, a lot I mean there's a couple of things at play. You know, one we've we've got a Heather has volunteered and

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done the website for years and Rose works on it together in the collaborative process. That being said, there's the second, you know, so we have a website that's functional and works. We have a space problem, a terabyte problem. We've got to figure out how to

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deal with that. Rose has ran a band-aid for however many years with 30 accounts. We're at the point we probably need to decide in August, you know, do we want to spend money to have external storage somewhere else? And we need to find the

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space, you know, we need to figure out that. But that's that's an August thing. We need to figure out, you know, how we want to spend it. If the council wants to discuss further about any of these things, certainly that can be brought up as a calendar agenda item. And I would

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encourage anyone to please let Rose know if there's an agenda item you want to add. But we definitely have a functioning website other than the payment issue with PECARD, which is a DOE problem. That's why it's down today. It's a pecard issue and DOE policy. And

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then though there's the other issue of the actual storage that we're going to have to figure out how to add storage and that's going to cost us money and that's going to be a budget item we're going to have to deal with and and as Dr. Kenton said it's going to

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have to at some point come out of something and that something's probably out of our reimbursement funds. So because there's limited money >> being that we are autonomous as a council I would find it concerning to

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have the DOE cover the costs etc. Um number one number two um are we allowed to have inst um you know IM accounts or Facebook pages?

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Oh you do? Oh yeah. And YouTube. Do we post these meetings onto YouTube? That's something I'd like to change and start over from scratch because I don't actually have access to it. Couple of

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years ago, we had someone working on it. Somehow the password they were using is no long that we had in place no longer is no longer in use. Now she's the um admin on it and she added me as an admin. So now I don't actually have

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access to go in here and change it. So I would like to recreate a new um Facebook page for CCSE. And Rose, you have access password-wise or not? >> Instagram. >> That's true.

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>> Once I recreat it, then I'll have the access to it. >> Okay. I think that's something we should really discuss at the August meeting. That's because there's a lot to that. >> That's rather involved. we would need to set up parameters and also Facebook and

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um there's just so many groups out there and pages and this is a great way to promote our our you know our council right since we can't go to each of because other councils right they're they're each member has to go to certain schools yada yada but in this case we

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have to find creative ways that'd be awesome next next month we'll talk about it. >> I need you guys to use the mics, please. I can't hear. I I actually would love to do this because I have a background in PR and

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marketing, but I can't do that right now because I'm setting, you know, I'm just getting we can but I do think that we need to formally set this up. We need to have a formal arrangement and this is something

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that's part of the administrative role and I want to work with you because this is something that we should be doing like we should be creating little reels and what have you. >> All right. That'll be something we'll have to work on the side. All right. We

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are Rose, you have interpretation on here. Is there anything with interpretation next time? Okay. We have new business listed next. Is there anything we want to talk or do you want to move on? >> There's a motion to table new business. Now,

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is there a second? >> I make a motion that we table. >> I'm sorry. I apologize. We don't have quorum. But they Yeah. So, so if we don't if no one speaks on us, then we'll move on to the next agenda

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item. >> Wait, um I mean we the reason why we didn't have uh a presentation was because we were going to discuss our council's

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priorities. We were going to talk about planning, what we want to do moving forward, what where what we're hearing from the community. Um, and we didn't get that to we didn't get to that tonight. So, um, hopefully in August. I

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mean, we don't have a we have a long meeting in August, so I don't know how we're going to be able to do that. But this was one of the things, one of the reasons why we didn't have the um the presentation was because of this. and you know hopefully we can get to it at the August

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meeting and talk about it because I think I still think it's really important for us to to see where you know what we're hearing from families where do we want to where do we want to go in terms of like the issues that we're hearing how we want to collaborate

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how we want to contribute and and just to plan and just to plan our our priorities as a council. Um, and this has come up time and time again from from us in prior meetings. So, very important. >> Dr. K, go ahead, please.

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>> If this is a priority, maybe we need to put this at the beginning of the meeting at the next meeting because that's the only way the time is not going to run out. um to be at a meeting till 10:30 at

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night, almost 11:00, is is you're not going to get the best out of people. So, I think maybe if it's important, um I make a suggestion that at our next meeting, maybe we can have it at the top of the meeting opposed to having it at the end of the meeting so that we can be

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a little more productive. you know, I I I we moved according to how the the agendas are are supposed to be set up, but then I um I haven't spoken a lot. I've let a lot of the

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members speak. Let me have my time, please. >> Right. Point of order. I have not interrupted anyone when they've spoken. Can I please not be interrupted when I'm speaking? I'm not saying I'm I'm I'm

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defense being defensive. All I'm saying is that I did and I was getting to that. I did email the council that there needs to be a motion. I can't motion. I would like to motion actually. That's why I wanted I was putting to the council in

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the email. I don't know if anybody else saw that that um for us to move this item of the agenda basically what what you said Dr. and I which where you were correct. I wanted us to discuss it at the beginning of the business agenda,

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but we got sidetracked as a council and nobody motioned. So that's why I emailed the council before the meeting um in order for us to do that. But yeah, it it is what it is. We're I'm I'm just glad that

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we're doing this. I'm glad that we're having these discussions. I'm sorry that we got sidetracked on other things. I still do think that this is this is very very important because we need to know what it is that we're doing, where we're

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headed. And right now, we're just focusing on on little things. And meanwhile, there's so much things going on out there that are impacting our kids, that are impacting our families, the families that we represent. And we're not moving.

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We have to do the work, guys. We have to do the work. We need to do um we we need to, you know, kind like agree on on on something. So, come on. Like, okay. Thank you. All right. Um if

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there's no other council tri, and parties discussion, um there's an additional topic of the meeting minutes. Sorry. Do we want any discussion on the meeting minutes or we moving on? Okay, moving on. Um, Kim, do you have a

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I'm sorry for such so late, but do you have a CCHS update for us, Kim? >> Um, just very quickly, we canled our July meeting because we did not have quorum and there seems to be a lot of disagreement in terms of what happens

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when you don't have quorum and that is not going to be easily resolved. Um, in June we did have four different resolutions that were proposed. Three of them did not pass. Um, they all missed by one vote. Um, the one that did pass

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was uh having an ACT school day similar to the SAT school day. Um, I had a um a resolution that I did sponsor. I was short one vote. Um it was around fostering safe and welcoming environments um by being respectful of

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names, pronouns, and gender identity. Um and also incorporated additional information around immigrants and immigrant families and making sure that when we have signup sheets, we include a field for how people would like to be referred to. So if they want to go by

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doctor or Mr. or Ms. or Mrs. that we have that included and also a pronunciation so they could put in a phonetic pronunciation um in the field so people aren't stumbling over their names. Um so th that was really the resolution. I'm hoping to reintroduce

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that in September. Um we also our bylaws did say that we were supposed to have our annual meeting in July but because we did not have quorum we were not able to do that. So it is being pushed to August. So our next meeting is August 12th. Thank you, Kim. Welcome.

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>> Appreciate your your stay so late and all you do for for representing our students at CCHS and >> thank you. >> Um our representative from Face Tama was off today. Tessa was here but she had to leave at the late hour. Um so that's the

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last of our topics. Is there a motion to adjourn? I guess we're we don't have to >> I make a motion that we adjourn this meeting. >> All right. It doesn't We can't vote, but there's a motion of concern, so we're going to

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adjourn. >> Thank you all. Good evening, everyone. >> Good night.