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--------- It being 4 o'clock on Wednesday, August 12th, 2026, I'm calling this board of selectman meeting to order. And we'll begin with a roll call vote. Kim Ember here. >> Al Pike here. >> Missy Bin here.

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>> Javon here. >> Joe Cunningham here. >> Great. So announcements. This meeting is being recorded. As you just heard, anyone intending to make a video or audio recording of this meeting should notify us. Financial assistance applications are available on the town's

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website or by calling the selectman's office. For anyone interested in volunteering, there are several vacancies on various committees and boards, one of which being the commission on disability. So, if you're interested, contact the selectman's office. Um, please check our website for additional events or notices. There is a

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complete water ban in effect for the town of Kingston until further notice. Um >> I I I find that word complete complete interesting. That means that if you have two tomato plants in your backyard, you can't water them.

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>> I don't know, Carl. I'm just my editorial comment. >> The uh notice was from the water commissioners who is a completely separately elected board. So [laughter] that is their announcement. Um, it also went out on the website and I believe through text message so people are

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aware. Um, I guess that's that's their jurisdiction. So, um, I also wanted to thank and we'll say this in our next regular meeting. I wanted to thank everyone for a wonderful national night out last night. The event was amazing. A lot great turnout. Um, it was a bit warm

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but we all made it through. No rain this year. Um, and just thank you to everyone, Laura and everyone [clears throat] else who put it together because it was a really great great event. Are there any other announcements?

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Okay, so first appointment is a request from the town clerk to approve and post the warrant for the state primary. Um, pretty self-explanatory. I don't have any comments or questions and I could entertain a motion if no one else has

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questions. >> I move the board of selectmen approve the warrant and authorize the town clerk to post the September 1, 2026 state primary election warrant. >> I'll second that.

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>> All those in favor? Kim I. >> Kyle I >> Missy I. Sheila I. >> Joe I. >> Perfect. Second item is a request for a road

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closure on September 19th for a wedding on West Avenue. Police, fire, and highway have all reviewed uh the request and have they've conditioned essentially our our vote for us here. We have the conditions built into the motion. I

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don't have any questions. As long as it's clear for people to know that they can't go down that road, then we'll be good to go. So, I move the board of selectment approve the request to close West Avenue during

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the hours of 3:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. with the following conditions. Contact the police department for a police detail. Pick up the barricades from the highway department on Friday the 18th. Ensure that emergency vehicles must have

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access at all times. Notify all abuing neighbors of the road closure. >> Second. All those in favor? Kim I. >> Kyle I. >> Missy I. >> Sheila. I. >> Joe. I.

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>> Okay. >> Sorry. Go ahead. >> Carl, were you gonna say something? >> No. Oh, okay. >> We're probably just gonna say thank you. >> Great. [laughter] Well, all set then. >> Thanks. Have a good one. You, too.

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>> Thank you. >> Um, next we have a request from the police chief to advertise and appoint on behalf of the board full-time clinician to backfill a vacancy due to a resignation. I don't know if the chief wants to speak on this. I don't have questions. I think it's pretty

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self-explanatory but if anyone has questions, they can ask. >> Just briefly, we had a resignation. We're trying to fill it. And the uh the motion that follows this is is or the item that follows this is to uh allow us to use [clears throat]

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PDM employees funded by the grant until that full-time vacancy is filled. >> That'll cover the next two items. So, it's two different motions, but same topic. I move the board of selectman authorize police chief Holmes to advertise and

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appoint a full-time clinician on behalf of the board. >> Second. >> All those in favor? Kim I. >> Carl I. >> Missy I. >> She I. >> Joe I. >> Okay. And then the next item as

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described the peer the ability to hire PDM clinicians on a temporary basis. Th this one I have a little bit of a concern. I'm not enthusiastic about providing authorization for a you know

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PDM clinician to be hired at any time. If it was specifically stating that it was going to be hired because we have we're one short, I don't have any problem with that. But I don't like it

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being open-ended such that if we had two full-time ones, we can hire a part-time one almost anytime we want. >> So, Carl, could we maybe modify the motion to to add at the end um

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until this vacancy is filled? >> That would be fine with me. or or even to the point of, you know, when this one is filled and or there is only one full-time person on board.

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>> Hey, I'm fine with that, Chief. Is that an issue for you? I think that you need Okay, >> not an issue. Uh it's our intention to stop using the prediums when we fill the full-time vacancy because the money is simply not there. So, if we were to add anybody, we'd have to come back to the board anyway.

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>> Okay. So Carl, do you want to make the motion the way that you um feel comfortable with it? >> I move the board of selectmen authorize police chief homes to appoint predeem

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clinicians whenever there are less than two full-time clinicians on the in the office on a temporary basis. >> Is there a second? I'll second that. >> Okay. Does that work? I think that gets

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what you need. Plus, it gives you if this happens again, hopefully it won't, but if it does, it gives you the ability to do this again. >> That works. Thank you. >> Okay. All those in favor? Kim, I >> Kyle I. >> Missy, I >> Joe I.

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>> Great. And then we have some one-day liquor licenses, which is I know Carl's favorite topic. Um, these are for some upcoming events and the the motions really detail when they are and where

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they are. So, I'll let someone make a motion and then if we have questions, we can do that before the vote. >> Anyone? I move the board of selectmen approve the request for two one-day liquor licenses for beers and beers

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events for 42nd Brew Company for Friday, August 28th from 5 to 8:00 p.m. and Saturday, September 26 from 11 to 2:00 p.m. at the Jones River Storage 26

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whopping Road contingent on receipt of liquor liability certificate. >> I have a question, but I'll wait until you get a second. Is there a second? >> I'll second it. >> Go ahead. >> Um, just a question. I think that this

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was brought up before and I just want to verify. There's an unlimited amount of one-day liquor licenses, correct? or is there a cap on one day liquor licenses? >> There there's not an overall cap for

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what the town can issue. There is um t um depending on the type of license, there are caps to any one individual, but it's pretty high. >> Okay. I thought we had talked about it before. I just wanted to verify that. Okay. And I and I still think for you

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know maybe next year for before next summer because I'm sure that 90% of these are always in the summer that we discuss if we want to impose some kind of a limit you know maybe for each company or or something like that. >> Doesn't sound very businessfriendly

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Carl. Yeah, I mean [laughter] 42nd Brewery does a lot for the town and they give back quite a bit too, >> you know, and and they are a town entity that pays taxes to the town. I mean, >> they could pick up, move out, and we don't even get the tax money after that. I think it's best to try to work with them.

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>> And I think my bigger concern would be more about safety issues. Like if there were events and then there were concerns at the event or after the event that the police chief or fire chief had brought or that we saw, right? like the the event wasn't I don't know if the the liquor wasn't handled appropriately or

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if people were being overs served like that's a different conversation I think. >> Y >> I'm just one person and it's just my thought. So if we ever have the discussion and um we'll we'll go from there.

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>> Sounds good. All right. So all those in favor Kim I. >> Kyle I Missy I. >> She. Joe I >> Okay. And then we have another event. >> I move the board of selectman approve

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the request for a one-day liquor license for the Kingston 300th old home day for 42nd Brew Company for Saturday night se September 19th 2026. I think that's September, right? Yeah.

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with a rain date of September 26th from 4 P to 8:00 PM contingent upon receipt of a liquor liability certificate. >> Second. >> I second. >> Oh. >> All those in favor can I? >> K I.

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>> Missy I. >> My god, these kids are killing me. Hold on. >> Did you say I? [laughter] >> Yes. >> Okay. >> No. Hi. >> Okay, perfect. Okay. Any additional items that we didn't anticipate that we

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need to address this evening? >> Nope. Okay. And then >> can we um just real quick, I don't know if he's going to go into it, but the um people were asking today about the water main break at Ocean Hill. I know the water was a little off today. If there's

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an update from that today, Scott, I don't know if there's an update from it. I know that I got and this is another maybe saying, "Hey, remember to log in and get your get your um your alerts because I got them everywhere. Email,

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text messages. I got a phone call." >> So, maybe it's a good time for people to remind her to >> to do that. So, so anyone can sign up to subscribe to alerts whether that's text message or email or whatever works for you um for the various alerts whether

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that's meetings or from various departments. Um Scott, do you have an update on that? Have you >> I've not gotten anything since Okay, the initial break. No. >> Okay. >> My update is that I'm in Rocky Nook and my water's been clear all day.

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>> Perfect. Well, I would say if you have discolored water, run it for a bit. That's what they usually tell you. If there's a water main break, sometimes that can impact the the color of the water and the the quality. So, just I'm sure the water department is doing everything they can as quickly as they

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can. So, appreciate everyone's patience. >> Run the water with a mandatory. Don't run the water. [laughter] >> I know. I know that's confusing. >> Just water the tomato plants with it. Do you want to go through your Oh, go

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ahead Miss >> I was just I forgot to mention that we have a music night at Grace Beach on Tuesday the 18th. Sorry about that. I should have done it at the beginning. >> Okay. And then um Scott, did you want to run through anything? Uh just real quick, I

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did send you something out, but um in the water department, we you know, the commissioners did appoint Matt D'Ach to come in as interim water superintendent until um they find a permanent uh superintendent, and I think most of you

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probably know Matt was here for many years, retired in 2022, and we dragged them back in. So, we're glad to have them. Um, and a couple things just, you know, staffing. Wastewater department's kind of having some issues with staffing. We

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may have to do some temporary hiring over there and bring in some interim folks to uh make sure that everything keeps moving. Um, I met with the um attorney, a special attorney that we apparently we hired to work on our Verizon cable

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license renewal. Uh, that's actually going really well. So, they will be at your first meeting in September to give you a a summary of what they've come up with, what's been agreed upon. It seems like actually compared to ones that I've done in the past, it seems like we've got a a good deal. So, they'll bring it

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to you first meeting just to give you the overview and then they'll come back for a actual public hearing end of September for you to vote on it. Uh facilities is looking for help. a laborer. Highway department has been trying to get a laborer and we're still

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recruiting for an administrative clerk in the building department. Um some of those jobs we're having a difficult time finding interest in. So we're just looking at different ways and trying to find some other avenues to recruit. Uh and beyond that, the only other thing is I'm still working on some uh procurement

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issues. just uh putting bids together for the fire station roof, um wastewater sledge removal, legal services, and we recently did one for engineering services. That's about all the excitement that we've had that I can talk about.

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One um one idea for recruiting, this came up uh during a conversation I had with an employee was actually just walking into banks and handing your business card to tellers and saying, "Hey, if you're interested in working for the town of Kingston, we have an

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admin role that's open. You know, check out our website." Just an idea. So, I guess a lot of towns have had some success hiring from banks. Not sure the banks love that, but >> and you can always use the we're closed on Fridays as a as a kicker because

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banks are often open on Saturdays and a lot of the tellers have to work on Saturdays. So >> yeah, that's the out of the ones that I mentioned that one we actually have gotten a fair amount of interest in the administrative job. It's the other ones that were um or specifically the one

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that we're requiring the CDL for. Um, and that's more of, I think, comparative to what a CDL is paying. >> So, we're trying to work through that and, uh, come up with some ideas, but, um, we want to certainly make sure that we get him what he needs or get that

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department what they need before winter comes. >> Will appears to want to ask a question. >> Hello. I just wanted to bring up the idea that I had a couple weeks ago. Maybe about doing a town hall type event like about

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to advertise and help us get our community. Maybe have each department if they have a open position or committee. Maybe we can use the council on aging big room to like help promote job opportunities in the town.

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>> Yeah, that's a good idea. like Oh, go ahead, Missy. Sorry. >> No, I was just like a job fair. >> Yeah, exactly. I I noticed that Silver Lake does that every year for credit for life. So, I was thinking that might be a

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good idea maybe to have maybe the town, maybe somebody from the town to go down to Silver Lake to help talk about maybe taxes and stuff. >> Everyone loves talking about taxes. Um, one one other thing I was thinking

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too is maybe we should consider working with the Kingston 300 and just if we're having if there maybe we have flyers, maybe we have something that just we can hand out to people of ways they can volunteer or other ways they can get involved because if we're bringing everyone together, what a great

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opportunity. So just something to think about. >> Okay, that's all I have. So go back on mute. >> Okay, any other comments or questions? Thank you everybody for coming together on this random evening. We'll be on a

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regular schedule starting in September. Um so we're the second and fourth Tuesday. See how that works. Giving it a try. >> School will be opening on September 2nd. Stop buying your school supplies now.

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>> I haven't even started. >> I don't even want to talk about it. May [laughter] I just ask one Can I just say one more thing? >> Go ahead, Will. >> Okay. I just want to remind everyone that school is starting on September second and to give yourself

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>> no and to give everyone a little extra time to travel as school buses will be back on the road and and to remember do not run the red lights as it is unsafe for the bus drivers and students. >> Got it. >> Okay. Thank you.

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>> Anything else from the board? I move that the board of selectment meeting be adjourned as of 4:18 p.m. >> Second. >> All those in favor? Kim I. >> Kyle I. >> Missy I. >> Noah I. >> Joe I.

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>> See that wasn't so bad. Carl 18 minutes. >> Very nice. Hold on.

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is present. Let me name everybody's name. >> Okay. >> So, Lynn Carrera, >> Linda Reaga. >> Yeah. Vendetti, John Violet, >> Ken Brack.

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>> Thank you. Um, do we have a volunteer for secretary today? I'm also going to take notes, but >> I have a I have a recommendation. Um uh a little later if we can move that uh down if you not >> sure. In the meantime, does anyone care

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if I just turn on transcription? >> I'm okay with it. >> You can once they realize that you're the new committee chair, they'll be sending you the copies of this. So, you can always go back and play this as well for notes.

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>> Oh. Perfect. That's even better. Let's do that. >> Okay, great. Um, I'm also drafting procedures and stuff. I'm sure they exist somewhere, but I'm putting them all down on paper. Um, so the minutes of

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the June 2026 meeting, I did get those uh from Jim before he left and circulated them. Did all have them? Anybody need a copy? Do you have I'll just write read it off

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of my email. I scanned it ahead, but I didn't read it. Read it. Okay. I uh didn't have any comments on anything. Um, so

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the the on your earlier point, we had a note that there's $800 remaining in budget, but this was as of June. >> Yes, I did. >> So that means that goes back in the bucket and we get a re >> No, it goes it goes back and we lose it. >> That's what I mean. It goes back in the

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bucket and then we get >> with Craig because I did spend 560 of that on um >> Yeah, >> D2. So >> I remember sending me that email. Yep. >> Yep. Okay. Um, you got any update on the cleaning

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chemical from those? >> I was Yeah, I was going to give an update. Perfect. >> Pick a date. So, we'll see who's available. >> Brave update. I missed a couple of things in the the agenda, so I'll put them in.

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Um, I didn't have any other comments on this. You're correct. It was $1,000. Mhm. >> Uh, as far as I know, Craig submitted

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everything for the previous uh business, meaning the house at Five Reed Street. >> Uh, I believe he sent them a letter. Yes. I think that's in the process of >> um

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>> demolished. >> Perfect. Um, okay. So, any other comments on minutes or >> I don't have anything. >> Somebody want to move to accept them? >> I make a motion that we accept the June minutes as written. We'll second that

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motion. >> All in favor? >> I >> I abstain because I missed that meeting. >> Gotcha. >> Great. Wonderful. Thank you. Um, so actually

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he's abstaining, so that worked out. But because we do have Zoom, if we have a member on Zoom that you're supposed to do a roll call vote for both, just so you know, in the future. >> Oh, >> good to know. >> How do you do a roll call? Do you just >> You don't vote because you're you're the

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breaker. So like Linda will be like, Linda, I Tom, I don't know. Gotcha. Okay great. >> Connie, if you're here, welcome to the Ka. Um, perfect. So, let's do new applications

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first. So, we have Conniey's application and we have Allen's. We have two open positions. Um, I met Allan at the event. >> Uh, loved him, loved his work, loved his attitude, thought he would be a huge

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asset. Um, also know Connie, have worked with her just through the book. think she would be fantastic. So I guess does anybody have any opinions, objections, discussions or

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>> I know Connie, I don't know um Allan, but you know, I know she's interested and we talked on the phone about, you know, the committee in general and some of the things we do. So I think she'd be great. Allan looks great on paper for sure. So >> yeah, >> Allan has uh he this is like his hobby,

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but then he's got some interesting side businesses. So like he makes signs with like old Kingston names and >> Yeah, it's pretty cool. >> It is cool. Yeah, I do know I've known Colony for a long time. She's my across the street neighbor and she worked with

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us as the photo editor and I must say >> I would send something to her and she would bang right back again. So she she's very engaged. She also um is the sort of person who will say no,

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>> I think we can do better than that and no, I think you should try to find another image. So she uh and she's one of the reasons why uh many of the images in our book aside from the images done by Ed Moot because he was the photographer. Sure. She's not a

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photographer, she's a photo editor, >> um are beautiful because of her work. And uh she does have she's been I guess she's been a resident for couple of decades anyway and she has a Delo in her family, you know, that kind of thing.

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>> Delo. Yeah. So she's um she's into genealogology and all that. So I think she'd be a good fit. >> Um as far as far as the the other fellow whose name is >> Allan. >> Yes, Allan. Right. I met him also. Interesting guy. He has a wonderful

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website, you know, >> um that he takes great care in making very nice images, very high quality, and he's interested and motivated. That's I think that's a very important thing. >> Yeah, I'm excited. He had some great

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ideas and they both seemed very >> y >> energized about it. Y >> great. So, do we need to vote on moving those to the board of selectmen? >> All right.

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Somebody like to move >> I'll make a motion >> to um recommend the two applicants um Connie Delano and Allan Wright to the selectman for approval and appointment.

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>> Second. >> All in favor? Oh, roll call vote because we're on Zoom. Linda Reagasha I >> Thomas Vandetti I >> John Bard I >> Ken Brack I >> the eyes have it.

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So uh Trisha was just waiting for us to officially approve that. She's going to send it on to the BOS. So I'll let her know tonight. They'll vote on it on the next meeting which I believe is the 16th. >> Oh, right. >> No, that's not.

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>> Yeah. >> I'm sorry. August. I skip on this, but they might be having >> I'm not sure. If not, it'll be early September. >> Hopefully, they'll have one. >> Can I make one further comment? >> Yeah. >> Um, some of you may know that Scott Bankraftoft was approached. Um, he he

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lives down at the old poor house on Landing Road, the Dela House, and uh, very interested in history, very interested in antiques and and all that. Um, he's an architect. He'd be a perfect fit. He's a young guy, too, which is nice. you know, nice to

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see young people involved. >> Um, >> but he's overwhelmed and he >> really considered it. I talked to him uh after I approached him. Um, I think maybe uh

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maybe he's just he's an architect. He's just too busy. >> So sometime in the future, he said he'd be very interested in the future, but right now too many projects going on. >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> What if his name's Bankraftoft? Brooft. >> Yeah. >> Perfect. >> He's

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>> I'm going to just make a note. >> I have a couple of other ideas and stuff. >> Kind of cool. Yeah. >> Great. Always good to have more people.

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>> Is it more hands make easier work or something? Is there a set number on this committee or could we add another person or >> So that's there's a set number but I don't know how that came about and if

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it's adjustable or not. So >> select can decide how many people but I don't know what their parameters are to decide that. So it would be a question for them. The other question I wrote down to ask is if we do work in groups

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or something where citizens can >> participate in a project that's not the committee and then that way maybe people who don't want to be on it and commit every single month. But if we do something like gravestone cleaning maybe

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that's a particular interest and they might be willing to serve on that working group or something. >> Absolutely. Um, great. Appointing a secretary don't know. First of all, >> oh no, she's not

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>> let me Well, first let me say >> we're throwing her under the bus already. >> The secretaries in the past um do it on the computer. Right. You know, I mean, the ones we've had it here and and that is a gift to be able to really

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go at it, you know. I'm like, um, well, Connie is very good at this kind of thing, and she may be very willing to do it. So, I mean, she could be approached if we could just hold off. >> Yeah. >> Until she comes in. I I I really think

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she may be willing to to do that work because she's just Yeah. She's gifted to listen to what's going on and write it all down. >> Yeah. Well, that's good to know. So, I don't know if anyone explained it to you, but once they vote at the selection's office, they have to go to the clerk's office and get sworn in. >> Yes.

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>> Or they can't legally vote here. So, you just have to remind them. >> We'll send them instructions and everything. I think I think Trisha sent me like a note that was like, "Congratulations, you've been approved. Now you have to >> She might do that already." Yes, >> I think so. But I will check with her.

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>> Yeah, I think I got one of those, too. and uh Glenn question for the for the notes per the secretar's role uh or maybe I don't know any one might know are any other are any town committees um using

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an AI tool for transcription just to generate notes from the meeting um >> I don't know but I think that would be phenomenal um I use them at work all the time and they you know If we can use co-pilot,

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it's Microsoft. Um, I don't know. The only concern I have around is I would want to make sure that, and to your point, Camel Chuck, that it's a town of Kingston

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model, not like >> chat GPT online because anything you put in online, they can take and use in their training and everything. It's not private. But if we were to use like the town of Kingston's

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Microsoft co-pilot license, then that co-pilot is only pointed at the town of Kingston. It doesn't like it still will learn, but you're only training the town of Kingston model, not the whole wide world model.

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>> That sounds worthwhile really to look into. And just you know going back um because of course I you know I've been the secretary in the past Jim McKenna did an outstanding job much more thorough I

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believe than what what I was doing and it's hit or miss you know the the um secret the you know the minutes can be just like short topical you know you don't always need a lot of detail however I thought gyms were very useful in his style and the and the takeaways

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you know next steps um had a great format. So, I I don't know if if the other members would would like that kind of model from Jim as or or that if that's a model, but um he just, you know, he just did a great job. So,

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>> no, I think so, too. I was using them to sort of guide what I was trying to like get on the agenda and everything and they're really well written. So, I'll make a note of that. Um, but yeah, AI is amazing. I can't

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even like I'm not a huge proponent of it, but like running the world, but I have to tell you for like >> schedules and meetings and it's amazing. >> Um,

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I don't recall where we came out on the Q codes for the historic graves. Um, this popped into my mind when we were at the event and I think somebody maybe it was you Tom pointed out or no

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John I think it was during your speech you pointed out the woman soldier >> and that her gravestone Hannah >> Hannah General Thomas bike yes so she was the first um >> lighthouse keeper female lighthouse keeper lighthouse keeper

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back on here to bring it back up to see where we got with it. >> Recommendation. Okay. Um first we have the 65,000 that we were awarded for repairs of the graves this year. Y >> how about we go to the CBA and ask them

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for number one a sign to put outside you know old Kingston's old burial ground established 1717 and at the same time the QR code thing >> and uh uh and then uh >> depending upon

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>> we could decide how many gra and we could have like markers next to the grave with a QR code >> and we could decide how many we want to do. Okay, we could u uh u get a criteria for what we're going to do and how many

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are we going to do and um and then u and then it would be our job to create information. I mean just a little mini bios why why these people >> again with AI it took it will take all

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of that and we'll be able to do it in a matter of minutes versus days and hours. So that's why I kind of want to revisit it because if we say this is the information we want and then point it at the historical papers or

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whatever, it will draft the whole first draft for you and then you just need to verify. >> Yes and no. A lot of these people are a lot of people that are buried there are simple people who never got onto the computer or are not in the not in the

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computer world yet and who did some wonderful things and and there's you know I'll give you a perfect example of that. It's a great film that has three four death heads on it. They were all children who died within a couple of days.

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Now, I would want to have I would want to have that uh with a little computer code there. Why? Because it tells you something about the life that people lived then. It's not just the famous people like William Seagar. It's also the regular people and what life was

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like in Kingston. Maybe they died in 1726 or so. >> Do we know anything about them? >> Yes, I've done I've done genealogy on that. >> Perfect. >> Right. So, so in other words, um, you know, and that family and then a fifth a

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fifth one died uh like a week later of the same disease and it was a throat throat ailment according to church records and um terculosis. >> No, it was um like either dtheria or

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dysentery or something like that. But in any event, that family lost all their children and they started the family again. >> Uhhuh. And the and the family again survived. And so I mean it just tells you something. When I do a tour I always take you there. >> Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Not because they were great people or >> but it tells you about the >> everyday life in Kingston. >> Yeah. >> That wasn't necessarily uncommon. >> So we'll do the AI thing. We'll we'll decide who who we're going to choose. >> But you have to have criteria of some kind. Also artistic work. Yeah.

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>> What gravestone was carved by? What carver? Why is this considered a great beautiful stone? >> Absolutely. Another another thing. So, it'd be fun to do. You know, we'll have a >> It would be a blast. So, I guess that's what I was wondering. It didn't fall off for any reason. It just kind of fell

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off. >> Get push pushed along. >> Perfect. So, we're free to reinvigorate it. >> So, if I could make some recommendations. I I like your idea of the main design, but I think individual QR codes, number one, if you do them on the phone, you have to get permission,

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and a lot of times you're not going to find people to get permission for. >> So, what I what you can do, and what I saw on one of my walking tours in Europe, they make metal ones. >> The problem with that is the town ms that there's some damage to from them

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mowing and they're not going to pull them up every time and they're going to get damaged every time. Well, it would be similar though, John, to veteran, >> you know, we have veteran. >> Do they run those? >> Um, >> all right. So, let's think about that.

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>> One big QR code on the stone that opens up to a page that shows everything and gives general direction where >> our addressing stones are. I know it's not >> as easy, >> but you know what? It can be done

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through So when you do the audio tours like in Europe, it's done on numbers. >> Yes. >> So it's like I'm standing in spot 12 and you kind of like push play on 12. >> So if we had a QR code that took you to

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our guide. >> Yeah. You know, you could push the number to pull up the information for wherever you're standing and we can do it based on the number map >> and we table brochures as well. Like you

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said, people that got on >> Yeah. >> techsavvy have paper and that could be >> it may not be as detailed, but it will at least give them some ideas. >> Yeah. I love it. >> You'd also want to study about adhering things to slate stones. Some of them are

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very fragile. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> I don't want to I don't want to do that either because the thing is is that people will tell you stuff doesn't weather. It doesn't this. It doesn't It does. And then what happens if the QR code becomes unusable? Now we've got to

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try to figure out how to pry it off without breaking anything. >> Yeah. >> I'm kind of >> Yeah. Well, >> I was more in favor of maybe like like the ones they have in Europe. they stick out of the ground, you know, like maybe seven, eight inches

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and you just kind of like click, >> but to your point, if they've got to mow the lawn, >> that might be plausible to >> pile the lawnmowers and we hire alpacas. >> Yes. >> Well, it's it's something all to work

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on, I guess. >> Yeah, for sure. Let's re reinvigorate that >> do that and have methods we can find out about >> um okay >> Lynn excuse me. >> Yes.

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>> One one suggestion going back kind of dovetailing with with what Tom said in terms of gathering the content. I mean um my experience with our nonprofit is that this is with grant writing but I think there's a analogous here. Um, the

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AI tools are excellent and you train them, but you still need the human touch afterwards to go through and adding things like Tom was talking about. So, if if we're kind of developing this, you know, the commission may want to have kind of a formal process or, you know,

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not formal, but to make sure that it's not just spit out from AI. >> No, never. They'll make stuff up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They make stuff up. >> Sometimes they do. Well, there was a funny one. They asked

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uh they asked the AI who was the first person to ever do a somersault, and it literally made an entire story about somebody whose friend knew how to back flip. So, they decided to do it. I mean, it went on. If you didn't know, you

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would think this was like a legit discussion. So, 100%. And I think if we're going to do it, we should like plan it out, start working on it. You know, it's not definitely not going to be a twoe

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process, but we need to have kind of a whole approach. >> And maybe that's why it fell off. >> Um, >> part of it was too, I think, um, whether we were going to be on something with the town website or if we were going to get like create our own website. And

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>> and I have some questions to ask about that as well because the 300 book committee website, uh, excuse me, Facebook pages and stuff. Got a lot of information and I was kind of looking around. Do you guys got a Facebook page?

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Everybody's got >> So, can we have one? >> You can. It has to go through Dana at the um, clerk's office. >> So, I have that note, too. >> Awesome. Um, very cool.

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Oh, so I was talking to Tom a little bit about this before you guys came in, but I got this book at the Kingston 300. I'm not doing any commercial advertising, but it's so good and I loved it is the in the shadow of evergreen, the

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Cornelius Holmes murder. >> Oh yeah. >> Um I learned about that at one of the talks halfway through I won't tell you what happens. Fascinating. >> So good. So, as I was like kind of reading more about John, I stumbled upon

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a page and it was a local woman and she said, "This was so great." I took the maps. I was finding all the spots and I had been thinking to myself and mentioned to John, >> wouldn't that be kind of like a fun 300th maybe October Halloween

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>> if John was interested to host, >> you know, in conjunction with us an official like murder mystery tour book, you know, and we could put it together so that

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there were, you know, lifesize pictures that you could hand out. So Tom was saying we have a lot of considerations that I didn't necessarily think about. I did think about private property being a consideration obviously to the extent that some of the stuff goes through

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people's backyards. We don't want to do that, but you know, there's room to maneuver around that. But one of the things Tom mentioned is um liability. what happens if somebody falls down or whatever. So, that's a consideration I

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hadn't really thought about whether we need insurance to cover from the trustees or whatever. But I guess before we go down that rabbit hole, >> what do you guys think? >> And you won't hurt my feelings. I'm just kind of proposing it. But if we can't

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get there, we can't get there. >> Um, but we're doing a the 3000 committee is doing an old house tour with a cemetery door. Um, and everyone that participates has to sign a waiver. >> So that and the waiver went through town council and everything. So that's >> okay. >> Something we could do to take the

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liability away is someone's going to sign up for this. They have to sign. >> Another thing I was thinking was that Tom mentioned the footstones. Some of them are real low. So we could put up snow sticks and just maybe wrap, you

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know, create a clear walking tour path. And then that way if you're deviating outside of the path, >> you know, um, Evergreen Cemetery is separate from the old burian ground. >> Okay. Evergreen Cemetery is a is

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private. That's a private cemetery. Okay. >> And it's it's owned by the I don't know of I don't know whatever it is corporation or something. >> I'm not sure exactly. >> But but um >> so you would have to get permission >> from the trustees to to do this kind of

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thing. And uh I I you know and it's it's been complicated. We did I did do a tour there maybe five or six probably seven years ago. I think it was before the book and uh so they we had to have papers made people have to sign you

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know waiverss and which of course don't >> but um so that that you can do it. It's possible you could do it during the day too. It doesn't have to be a nighttime thing. I wouldn't do it at night. That'd be really be afraid if people would fall. Well, dust. >> Um, and it's buggy down there too, you know. But, um, >> yeah. Not at Halloween.

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>> That's true. True. During, uh, the old burying ground though, I must say, uh, there there there is a liability to the town. Um, persons makes a header over one of those footstones, we'd have to get permission from the town anyway, right? Um, that that would be a problem.

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Then also damage the stone. Somebody falls in a footstone, hits a stone, down goes a stone. There you go. That's a couple of thousand bucks to have it fixed. You know, it's a it's an expensive thing. So, um during the day though, it's possible um to have

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something, you know, I suppose, but at night time I really and like you say, we could map out a little area for people to go during the day. >> But on the 4th, I'll be taking two groups. Yep. >> One, I think at 11 or 11:30 and the

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other one is at 3 or 3:30. I can't I can't remember the exact times but um and maybe you I think you were interested in going along too. So um >> September 4th >> that'll be the fourth Sunday. >> October 4th. >> October I say September.

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>> No the fourth. >> Yeah. Yeah. So um yeah. Um it's it's just u you know we have to be careful. But I would I would love to do

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another tour of the uh the property down at Evergreen and I would love John would be great. I think in many ways it would be good advertising for evergreen too. They're always looking for people to buy plots. No, seriously. >> It's true. Come on down. Take a tour.

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No, I just thought like if we did it, you know, we could do it >> under a scheme and maybe this is another thing you guys will know more about because I know we're a government agency so we can't collect money or maybe we can but

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you know having a have a cost have a cap you know I mean we're not talking about 300 people you know however 50 >> you wouldn't want that many anyway >> 20 what however many we deterine is safe, whatever. Maybe you auction off

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the spots as a fundraiser. Um, but having it, you know, not so much, but I guess I I was envisioning in my head sort of like, here's where Cornelius left. This is the path he walked. We're

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going to walk down the path. Somebody's going to jump out and hit somebody over the head. Not really. Well, uh, we have there are trustees meetings every month, and I'll be missing the next one that's coming up,

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uh next Tuesday. >> So, you're a trustee. >> You're a trustee of >> Yeah, trustes of evergreen. Yeah. >> Uh, at the at the chapel there and in in the cemetery. I will be missing that. >> Yeah, >> that one. I'll be out of town. So, um,

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but there There is one every month and u >> Okay. >> Okay. No rush there. >> Since we're still in the cemeteries, um to bring up about cleaning.

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>> Yes. >> Okay. >> Um so we have all the cleaning. We have all the kits. Um we have members here that are interested in learning to do that. I was um Colonial Saw gave me a class on how to do it. It's very simple. couple of um precautions we need to

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take. Um and I have some outside people very limited that want to do it as well. Um would a Saturday morning work okay for everyone? Um and how soon I was trying to think maybe possibly the 22nd or the 29th. So not this Saturday,

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but maybe the Saturday after that. >> Not the 29th. That's my birthday. >> Nope. >> I'll be down the Cape. I'm going to see a Taylor Swift sing alike. >> Nice. >> Maybe we can push it out into September,

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too. But I didn't know I know been trying to get this schedule for people. So, and it it doesn't necessarily mean to be the only one I can have one because it's going to take a while to >> schedule. I was going to say we wanted to do Saturday. Saturday the 22nd, maybe 9:00 a.m.

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>> Yeah. I don't know if I >> 22nd and this month. >> Yes, >> John. That should be good. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, 9:00 a.m. I don't know if I can do it that day. There's something else. >> If not, I'll have another one and I'll try to do maybe

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>> do the deal house. >> Okay. >> House selling. >> Where are you meeting? >> Oh, >> I think that's the deal house was selling at the bee house that day. >> Yeah. >> Uh maybe we can trade off like I can go

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clean for a while and come back. >> Okay. All right. 22nd. Yeah. Okay. >> So, you're meeting over there at the entrance. >> Uh we'll meet like right in front of the Unitarian Church. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Right by the church. >> Yeah. >> Perfect. >> And if I could do uh talk about other

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things about the cemetery as well. This is Does it fit in now? >> Sure. >> Um we have we got 65,000 for repairs and um of gravestones. >> Um and I have no idea. Well, first of all, I I just don't know the process,

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but we had um somebody who was approved, was that Colonial? >> Yes. >> Right. My assumption would be since they were approved before as being the best price and and they did good would work, um they would probably be the top of the

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list again. So, um, unfortunately, anytime you get, I believe it's over 12,000, you have to put it up, um, from 12 to over, I think underneath the sale bid with 65. So, it has to go to at least three, um,

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you need to get three quotes or request three quotes. If someone doesn't send it back, that's fine. So, um, there are several companies that we can ask, um, if Cologne being one of them. >> Okay? >> And then we have to get that information back and everything decide from there. And then there the first step. We have

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to go and find the stones. We have to flag the stones we want them to look at. >> Yeah. Do we still have the um what was it called? Was done several years ago. Um >> the survey. >> The survey. >> Oh, sure. Sure. We need to get some of

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us to go over to be as old as >> Yeah, it is. We may and we can get a little I have little flags. Yes. >> And we can just go this one, this one, this one, and how much how much would it be? >> Yep. >> To look at them and uh >> I know there's been damage since they

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they uh they've been as well. So that I'd be glad to go out with people to do that >> and um and then um Okay. Yeah. So that's something that we should we should really try this fall to to to to get out

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there. Look at these stones. And >> yeah, is a great time to look at stuff because it's cool. It's pleasant, >> you know, on a Saturday or a Sunday. I know that you work sometimes Saturdays and Sundays, but revolves time to go out. >> All right. And um the other thing about

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the graveyard is this. Um a couple of weeks ago, I have a very large gravestone in my in my pieces of a gravestone in my basement. Loaded it up in the back of my car. went down to go to the access road. There's a there's an

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easement that goes right by the old uh town hall. Okay. >> And there was a car right in front of the gate, right? >> So, I just I just I said, I'm not going to I'm not going to get out of the car and knock on the door and ask them to move the car. I just want home. And the

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damn thing must weigh about the two pieces probably are about 30 lbs each. So, you know, it's just a pain in the neck. That easement should never be blocked. Never be blocked. That should be open so people can get in for a variety of reasons. We have recent

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graves. We have veterans graves at the end. They're relatively recent. Um if you want to >> do we need to send a letter? >> I I think so, but there are other there are other issues too. It's also um on uh old bearing ground property. Uh there is

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cordwood that is stored up against the uh up against the garage that they have there and the uh uh the line um that marks their property from our property is right up against the house. Now they

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have cordwood stacked up there and I believe they are covering one of the gravestones. I think it name is Charles Brown as a matter of fact gravestone and that that there should be no none of their property should be on old buring

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ground propert. >> And uh >> I'm wondering if we should go through Sean at the highway department because he's technically the cemetery director. >> Yeah. >> Um and bring these to him and have him send something official from the town. >> Yeah. >> Instead of just from a committee. Yeah. Uh because I know when they did the

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cleanup he they put everything back by the veterans if they got in there no problem. I don't know if they had to ask them to move a vehicle or not. They were able to access it and come out. So >> everything everything should be out and that should be open. Not only that they're if they're cleaning they have to

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bring in their material there going up that hill from evergreen. That's very difficult to do. But then the only other thing is I'd like somebody to go with me down to the graveyard any day. It would take 15 minutes and open the gate. Now

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Craig and I closed the gate. All right. Um about a year ago because we had somebody come down and evaluate how much would it cost to have this uh gate um fixed. >> Turned out that was a huge amount of money. And um it's the kind of thing

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like we would have to take the grant would be that would be the whole grant would be just fixing the the the gate and and the fencing. Um but I I want to close that again because I do not want it to be opened and closed and opened and closed. I just want it to be opened

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permanently until we decide what to do with it. So it'll be left alone. So um so uh maybe maybe when we go and check the gravestones which gravestone to do it >> people do it

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>> take 15 minutes. It's just so old to have two people out the camp >> otherwise it break off you know >> and be a disaster. >> We're doing that as well. I know Craig had the keys the vaults of the line from Evergreen to the old barrel ground.

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Those locks get rusted from time to time. So, we should probably check and make sure we can open those locks, >> right? >> Who has the keys? >> I think Craig did last. I know I assisted in the boat with the fire department. We had to cut the locks off and he had to replace them. >> Oh, yes. I remember that. >> Check that to make sure that those are >> Yeah. get in and out of that.

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>> All right. So, that's another thing to do. I'll I'll go to the highway department. I'll talk to them about I'll bring up the maps. I'll bring up the the photocopy of the easements and so on and uh and maybe they'll send a letter out and I'll I'll I'll report next time. Okay.

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Sounds good. And actually my thing on old burial ground was uh revisiting those voids in the ground because I haven't stopped thinking about them. Um so when the gentleman from Bridgewater State did the survey,

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>> they identified those voids that maybe they're voids, maybe they're unmarked graves. The stones have been damaged, removed destroyed. So, I keep thinking that there's people there. Maybe,

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maybe not. But if they are, they deserve to at least be even if we don't know who they are, we can at least say there's unmarked graves here. You know, >> I have a recommendation on that one. Why don't I go over and talk to Janer and

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the in the clerk's office? I know they have record a record of burials at the old burian ground. >> Okay. All right. And not that book either. Not the book. A book. They have like files file. >> And let me see what they have.

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>> Okay. >> First. Um, now the next thing is uh when we went over that ground penetrating radar uh uh survey. >> Yep. >> There was nothing to indicate that there were bodies there. >> No.

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>> There were voids. No, >> just open spaces. So, um, you know, I I don't I don't know. So, perhaps we perhaps we can maybe Jana and can give us a clue as to whether there were people left. How

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there were any slaves buried there or something? >> You think it's going to be difficult? I mean, we do know there was poppers buried there and possibly slaves where >> um unless that record has it. But the other thing is it was either the 20s or the 30s. Um the superintendent of the

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cemeteries came in. All the stones were all over the place. He didn't like it and he took all the stones and put them in line. >> Yes. >> So burials are sporadic. >> That is true. >> That's That's right. Yeah. Isn't that something? >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. That's weird. Yeah. Did you I mean it was like two or three years ago, but they are pulling headstones out of a river in Virginia >> from one of the old cemeteries where they used them to bolster the bank.

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>> Yeah. >> It's just shocking. But anyways, I'm not, you know, I don't think we need to try to identify the but I mean I think, you know, just saying, hey, >> these are grave sites. Can we not dig it up, park cars on it?

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>> Well, there was a there was a fellow who um an aberist used to cut trees down. I can't remember his name. He did he did some work in the old burying ground and did little did work in the uh evergreen. I don't know if he's in business anymore, but he told me, he said, "There

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are homes in this area, one in particular, that has a walkway of gravestones. I think they came from the old buring set. >> Really?" Wow. >> Now, maybe if we had some one of those drones, we could go over and find out,

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but I don't think we can knock on doors and say, "Hey, you have any grape zones in your backyard?" >> No. And they're going to say it was done. how long ago and they technically should go back, you know, >> but uh >> I don't know, but I mean you never know. >> Someone must have gone.

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>> Yeah. Right. But I did um at the time research it and there are in Massachusetts there's a cemetery preservation group >> um and they are willing to help

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like in terms of what you can cuz obviously you can't just go digging and you know they don't want to disturb you all that kind of stuff they cannot >> they have people who can do what they call cing and it's a very small tube.

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And if you identify it, they kind of go down and what they look for is the leftover wood or whatever from a box or if there's any bone, but it's like tiny tiny tiny core where you think it is and

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then they look at what comes out in that core to determine if it may be a grave site. >> But they can sort of help you do it. Um, apparently there's a law of a mark. It makes sense, but I guess, you know, I just never really thought it would such

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a thing to mandate a whole government division. >> Poppers. They were poppers. And this, you know, at Evergreen, if you're at Evergreen, there's a hill >> goes up and then it goes to the old the old burying ground basically. Well, just at the crest of that hill, if you look,

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there are these very small um marble gravestones. Right. Right. And those are poppers and and so they were poppers buried there. And some of them probably had no gravestones at all. That's my guess that and but they did what do you call it? Penetrator radar there. All

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they did that whole section and I don't think anything conclusive was discovered. So >> yeah, >> I don't know. >> Yeah, I would like to find out more. I just been sitting with my >> It's interesting. Yeah, >> I believe

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even if we don't necessarily know who they are, we could at least put something up that remembers some people. >> So we'll I'll check with Shannon to see whether there are any further records that we >> That'd be great. >> Don't have. Yeah.

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>> Um, and I think that was it on new business. Did anybody have anything else? >> I do. >> I may. >> Okay. Okay.

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>> Let me give one of these to everybody. Um, we I think everybody here knows that we have um everybody here knows that we have um 300 additional books we have had printed.

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Uh, Ken and I are picking them up on Friday. Okay. We have already sold just about up to 200 now. No, up to 100 now. Two about 200. A little more than 200 will remain. after that, I I just don't

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think we have the energy or the money to print any more books. >> So, if you know anybody who wants a book or if you need another book, uh or if you'd like to share this with people, please do because um this will be it.

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And um um we we will have I mean, we'll be around town. Um we'll have uh places to pick them up. Uh there is the um uh what do they call it? Um, if you

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go give butter, I think if you you >> do this Q, what do they call these? QR code. >> Right. It take it gives you goes you uh goes to give butter and you can buy one with them. We get a recording of of of the sale and then we'll have a book set

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aside for you. And so we a lot of them have been sold in that way. So, um, please uh please do if you know anybody, please let them know. >> The other thing I found, uh, real quick, just on that point, I found this website

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that was like, I grew up >> in Kingston or I grew up in Massachusetts or something. And it's like people that aren't here anymore, but they're in like Florida or California or whatever. So um

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>> and we've done a lot of >> Yeah, we've done a lot of out >> of a thousand and then a few of us so far. >> So I think that is it that I had here. >> You can have something.

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Yep. >> Yeah. U this likely sort of FYI 55 Landing Road, one of the old boat sheds. Um the watershed association plans to demolish it. And um uh Lynn and I Craig forwarded

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uh some correspondence from Matt Panella because they're going uh to the conservation commission with a request for determination of applicability to see if it's it's definitely within the wetlands, but to go through that process. Um, and it's it's not one of

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the historic sheds. It's um it's a 20th century one that um probably the L plants use. It was a engine and boat repair shop. It's the shed that's closest to the water. Um and it's really just, you

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know, it's falling apart, often flooded. Um but I I I'm not exactly sure if this is going to like would come to us with the demolition permit process. I mean, likely. I I think unless Lynn, you may know otherwise, but um I think they're

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going to Conscom sometime in the next couple weeks, whenever their meeting is. So, we may see this pretty soon. >> Okay. I'll keep an eye out for that. It may be in the mailbox, which I didn't know where it was until an hour ago, so

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I will look. And Matt sent us the uh the maps with um like the the flood plane FEMA stuff and etc. And Lynn, I don't know if uh if you wanted to distribute that or wait unless

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wait till it get if we come in with the demolition part. Just just sort of FYI. Yeah, but >> we'll do I'll take a look at that. Anything

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else? No. >> Okay. 300th committee update. >> Uh yes. So, we have the parade. It went very well. Um we're now moving on to the old home day, which will be uh September 19th with a

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main date of the 26th. So, working on some games, activities, some raffles, and prizes, and um accumulating with fireworks at the end of the night. >> Very cool. Um, and then right now with scheduled events, our final thing will be October 4th, which will be an old

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house tour. Um, and also the tours of the cemetery. That's at the same time of the old burial town. >> And where do you sign up for those old house tours and stuff? >> Um, it will be I believe they're going to have an opportunity through the wreck

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department. I'm not 100% sure, but um one of the women um >> Christine is running the um the sales for that. So, I don't know if they've actually gone out yet. I think she was kind of holding off. She's making booklets and stuff >> if it was through the rec WCK department's really good at sending out,

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you know, listing, >> but but they they won't do it till um a full month before. So, it wouldn't go out. >> That would be great. It' be good if they could do it. >> Yeah. >> They really reach everybody. >> Yeah. If if we don't do sales to the wreck, we'll at least have them send out uh an email. Yes,

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>> those old houses are so cool. My friend Amber Collins lived in the brick house in front of Mine Holds, you know, Carol and Wall-E. Um, and like when we were kids, literally you could like go into the closet and like open the door and

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there were like stairs upstairs. I mean, you could go like through her house without ever being in like a main area, you know? It was like all like butler service. >> So cool. >> Yeah, it is. Yeah.

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>> So, I'm really looking forward to that. I think that's going to be really awesome. >> I want to see the what's it? Who was it? Igab Washurn. Was it? >> Uh, what was his name again? >> Was it Washurn? Washurn.

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>> They're having his house, aren't they? >> I believe so. >> Yeah. Down near down near the train. An old house. >> So, I would love to see where he was born or where he lived. >> Quite a quite a person, you know. >> It's going to be very cool.

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>> I had uh just one point of information. I was talking with Rob in the facilities office and he said that he found someone qualified to do the powderhouse work. >> Wow. >> And um I'm not sure when and he was he

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was very excited that he found somebody and that somebody that was wanted to do it and willing to do it. So I'm not sure when it's going to happen and all that, but I he said, "Oh, pass it on." You know, >> there you go. That's great.

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>> And I still haven't given up the idea on the Kingston Museum. I won't roll that one out on the first night. But >> yeah, no, no, you're absolutely right. Oh, uh, listen this. Here's something that we should think about. And it would be nice one all the time.

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>> They can have one. It's >> just one of the thing to think about. This will be nice, especially after you've done you've done such great work. Um, and uh, and you're very very busy. Um uh is to think about doing something for Craig Dalton.

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um >> I meant to ask you about that. >> Could be simple. It could be a wine and cheese maybe down at my house or something like that or or one of our homes. Um he's been he's been here for a

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long long time. A lot of work and uh I mean you know he came to all these meetings and I spent many a time trumping through the old graveyard too. So, um, yeah, I I've >> So, Ken, you had sent a note, right? Did

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we get anything back on that? >> Oh, before town meeting, but I I inadvertently reached out to the old um uh town moderator and that the new one did get back to me. I forget. It's been

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several weeks and just saying if we're wondering if we're doing anything for Craig. Um, and he said maybe at the special town meeting they could have some announcement, but I love Tom's idea just us getting together. >> But I'll follow up with that. Yeah.

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>> But I think we could open it open our new Facebook page. >> Yeah. >> With it, too. >> Yeah, that would be nice. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. You know, a wonderful person and good work. >> They did.

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>> We do breakfast at the Bradford House. No, I'm kidding. We could do it the early bird or something. Have a nice >> Well, we could do it whatever our homes, too. I'm talking you may want to do a large event. That's one thing, but if you want to do a smaller event, that that means a lot, too.

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>> Oh, no. I was thinking small. >> And as I said, a wine and cheese, not a lot of cooking and just >> I'm happy to do it if you want to volunteer your house. >> Yeah. Well, so we love it. We should uh think about a date and especially I'm thinking about you, John, because you're

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so busy around me. That's fine. >> And uh you know, and I know I know Ken works very hard on the book and >> yeah, >> that's that's going to be um a lot of these things are beginning to iron out it seems to me. Um

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>> we could aim for maybe September after summer and everybody's kind of back into the swing of things. >> Yeah, I think so. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> and then should we get him a gift? >> I think so. >> Oh, we'll we'll have that discussion not

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on the >> Yeah. Yeah. >> general viewership. >> Kind of ruins the surprise. >> Great. >> All right. Shall we adjourn? >> Make a motion to adjurnn. >> I will second that. All in favor?

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>> I I need a roll call for that. I think we're >> Anybody opposed to us adjourning? >> No. >> Let's have an overnight. >> We're good to go. >> Thanks, Ken.